From rlogan23 at earthlink.net Thu Aug 1 13:10:15 2002 From: rlogan23 at earthlink.net (Rochelle Logan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:10:15 -0600 Subject: [ipac] Comment box Message-ID: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months later on popular items). -- Rochelle Logan Associate Director of Support Services Douglas Public Library District Castle Rock, Colorado rlogan23 at earthlink.net http://www.dpld.org/ 303.663.1560 From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 1 13:35:50 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] Comment box In-Reply-To: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: It is in Customize>Interface>Variables>Preferences>Patron Options Change it to false and it is gone... Finally, a question I can answer instead of asking one. Maybe I am making progress 8^) Sue On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rochelle Logan wrote: > Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request > Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have > found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation > staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months > later on popular items). > > -- > Rochelle Logan > Associate Director of Support Services > Douglas Public Library District > Castle Rock, Colorado > rlogan23 at earthlink.net > http://www.dpld.org/ > 303.663.1560 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From vargasr at howa.lib.md.us Thu Aug 1 13:45:44 2002 From: vargasr at howa.lib.md.us (Ruth Vargas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ipac] Comment box In-Reply-To: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: There a variable that should do the trick. Variables > Preferences > Patron Options > Allow patron to enter comments when placing a request. We're getting ready to do the same but I haven't actually tried it yet. Ruth Ruth Vargas -- Systems Operations Manager / Automation Supervisor Howard County Library voice: (410) 313-7923 10375 Little Patuxent Parkway fax: (410) 313-7864 Columbia, MD, USA 21044 email: vargasr at HCLibrary.org iPac catalog: http://ipac-HCLibrary.org On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rochelle Logan wrote: > Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request > Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have > found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation > staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months > later on popular items). > > -- > Rochelle Logan > Associate Director of Support Services > Douglas Public Library District > Castle Rock, Colorado > rlogan23 at earthlink.net > http://www.dpld.org/ > 303.663.1560 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 1 14:37:40 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] My List Question Message-ID: Is there any way to add sorts or limits to My List? This question comes out of the discussion of the inability to choose all of the See Also items at once like you can in Dynix text. I thought perhaps a work around would be to add each group into My List and then go through them there. I guess My List must do a default sort by title, but it might be handy to be able to make a choice. Ideally, I suppose, being able to select the records in multiple headings would be the simplest solution. Thanks, Sue ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us Thu Aug 1 14:55:39 2002 From: mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us (Shutt, Michelle Miller) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:55:39 -0400 Subject: [ipac] changing pages in ipac 2.0 Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BAFB976@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Forgive any cross-postings - We have just installed Ipac 2.0 and are working on the configuration. What we'd like to have is a basic search -a drop-down menu with all the search indexes, and and advanced search - the same drop-down menu with the all the search indexes, and then all the sort and limit options. As far as I can see, this is not possible. It seems that in order to have the sort/limit options, you must use the power or advanced search - which is a different configuration of the search indexes. It appears you can create new pages from the XSL templates, but there doesn't seem to be a template for what we want - the search and limit options are only on the templates with the multi-field and boolean searches. Is there any way to do this, or are we stuck with the power and advanced search fields that are already set up? (I know we can determine which fields we want to show on the advanced screen, but that still doesn't help us) Any suggestions would be helpful. thanks Michelle ________________________ Michelle C. Miller Shutt Technology Support Librarian II Richland County Public Library 2001 Library of the Year 1431 Assembly St., Columbia SC 29201 (803) 929-3445 From kledford at npls.org Thu Aug 1 17:05:37 2002 From: kledford at npls.org (Kyle Ledford) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:05:37 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are branches. Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org From george at lincc.lib.or.us Thu Aug 1 18:42:08 2002 From: george at lincc.lib.or.us (George Yobst) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Message-ID: Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus From george at lincc.lib.or.us Thu Aug 1 19:49:00 2002 From: george at lincc.lib.or.us (George Yobst) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] My List Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Susan, AFAIK, you have to create the sort or limit in the Dynix account, then import into iPac. But, I think there's a bug in 2.01, so when you go to import a 2nd set of them, it displays wrong and generally doesn't work. -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Susan Byrne wrote: * *Is there any way to add sorts or limits to My List? This question comes *out of the discussion of the inability to choose all of the See Also items *at once like you can in Dynix text. I thought perhaps a work around would *be to add each group into My List and then go through them there. I guess *My List must do a default sort by title, but it might be handy to be able *to make a choice. Ideally, I suppose, being able to select the records in *multiple headings would be the simplest solution. * * Thanks, Sue * * * * ************ * Susan Byrne Where are we going? * Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? * Kitsap Regional Library * Bremerton, WA * susan at krl.org * ********************************************* * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus From ostrowb at tblc.org Fri Aug 2 08:44:25 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 02 Aug 2002 08:44:25 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> References: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Message-ID: <1028292266.29876.55.camel@bernie> > Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are > you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... > Hard coding? I use GNU Emacs for Windows to edit our XSL stylesheets. I installed the xslide module and added this to my .emacs file (c:\_emacs, actually): ;; XSL mode (autoload 'xsl-mode "xslide" "Major mode for XSL stylesheets." t) ;; Turn on font lock when in XSL mode (add-hook 'xsl-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) (setq auto-mode-alist (append (list '("\\.fo" . xsl-mode) '("\\.xsl" . xsl-mode)) auto-mode-alist)) ;; Uncomment if using abbreviations ;; (abbrev-mode t) (setq default-tab-width 2) GNU Emacs definitely takes some getting used to, but it's powerful, and I like the way it handles extremely long lines of code. Every now and then I copy d:\epixtech (separate partition for applications, y'know) to a backup partition, and every other now and then I put a copy on a file server. Ben From eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us Fri Aug 2 09:20:43 2002 From: eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us (Eileen Kontrovitz) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:20:43 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org Fri Aug 2 10:13:19 2002 From: GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org (Helfrich, Gair) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:13:19 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Fri Aug 2 11:03:09 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:03:09 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD861@xchg.hclib.org> There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us Fri Aug 2 11:38:09 2002 From: eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us (Eileen Kontrovitz) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:38:09 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm betting money you loose the customization? Any takers? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Helfrich, Gair Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From ABOWERS at acmail.aclink.org Fri Aug 2 12:25:31 2002 From: ABOWERS at acmail.aclink.org (Bowers, Alyce) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:25:31 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: Beautiful page. Could you briefly describe what parts of the pages required the customization of the XSL stylesheets? Sorry to ask such an elementary question, but we are trying to decide if we can do some of this kind of stuff. Definitely need to do the first two and are using them. And glad to hear that this work will carry over with the upgrades. Alyce J. Bowers - Atlantic County Library -----Original Message----- From: feilmeyer, phil [mailto:pfeilmeyer at hclib.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:03 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 2 13:36:30 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:36:30 -0700 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: At Seattle Public Library we have customized the same three areas Phil has indicated, as well as the CSS files (cascading style sheets - which I suspect Phil has also customized) While we have not done as much customization of the XSL style sheets as has Hennepin or Tampa Bay, what custom work we have done has been done in a way that can be controlled or modified using variables we have created in the string.xsl, onoff.xsl, image.xsl, other.xsl and vardesc.xml files. That way our customizations can be turned on or off or modified using the iPac Admin tool. I have spent much time customizing the xsl sheets in attempts to resolve some of the current bugs in iPac. Usually this ends up being frustrating as I run into problems caused by hard-code that prevents a fully satisfactory fix or leads to a dead end. So, we eagerly await versions 2.02 and 2.1. A major effort was producing the xsl sheets for our iPac "home" welcome page. This was a major modification to the news.xsl sheet provided by epixtech. It is a work in progress, and there are several features and design changes that I hope to make when I can get back to it. It's best to look at our customized pages using an "in library" account, as some of the features are turned off in the dial account (like the "owns a copy" message). Our Central Library URL is: http://ipac.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=dwn One of our branch catalogs is: http://ipac.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=net Our external (dial) pac is: http://ipac.spl.org/ For editing the XML/XSL I have been using the JEXT editor, a freeware (Released under GNU GPL license) Java programmer's text editor. It is programmed in Java, therefore some functions are slow, but it also comes in versions that run on Windows, MAC OS, and Linux. What I like is that it uses syntax colorizing for Java, Perl, HTML, XML, and XSL, as well as many other languages, provides context sensitive automatic tag completion, allows multi document editing and the capability to save workspaces of several files. It has a 5-cow rating from Tucows. You can get it from Tucows or http://www.jext.org/ I am concerned about how much work will be involved when we upgrade, as we will probably have to redo most if not all of the changes to the xsl and css files. Since epixtech has indicated that it is developing on a Windows client-based admin tool for future release, I'm also concerned about how it will deal with the changes I have made to the variables files. They currently work great in the web-based tool, as it dynamically creates the lists of variables to edit using the vardesc.xml file. Therefore, any additions I make can be modified using the SA tool. As Phil mentioned, there is a learning curve using XML and XSL, as well as understanding the relationship of files and variables used by iPac. Also, since iPac is still extremely "buggy," I would suggest limiting most changes to those you can do in the iPac Admin tool and using Dynix dictionaries. That way you know the bugs you are reporting are being caused by iPac ala epixtech and not by any of your customizations. I would also hope that many of the customizations Hennepin, Tampa Bay, other libraries and we have done will be incorporated as options in the next release of iPac. I would gladly give my modified and commented xsl and xml file to epixtech for their examination. - Charles ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* >>> pfeilmeyer at hclib.org 08/02/02 08:03AM >>> There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! r*************************** http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Fri Aug 2 13:44:29 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:44:29 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD865@xchg.hclib.org> >At Seattle Public Library we have customized the same three >areas Phil has indicated, as well as the CSS files (cascading >style sheets - which I suspect Phil has also customized) Yes, indeed. I forgot about those. Fortunately, our customized CSS files needed no modifications in the upgrade from 2.0 to 2.01. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 2 16:08:36 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:08:36 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Modifying iPac Footer Message-ID: I just responded to an individual query regarding removing the epixtech logo from the footer. As I believe that I have seen similar questions on this list server, I thought I would post my answer here as well since some of you might be interested. MODIFYING IPAC FOOTER: The footer text can be changed in the following variables using the iPac Admin Tool: Customize > Interface > Variables > Edit Variables Select the applicable "string" file: (ours was labeled "SPL - String Default") From medlinc at hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 17:09:02 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 21:09:02 +0000 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020802/f4174d05/attachment.html From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Sat Aug 3 11:42:23 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:42:23 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCABF@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Wordpad Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Ledford [mailto:kledford at npls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:06 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are branches. Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Sat Aug 3 11:46:57 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:46:57 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAC0@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> I am assuming that when you upgrade you may choose to just upgrade the iPac portion and not the XSL processor. You can then take your time either adding the new elements epixtech has in the new version to your own stylesheets. Or you can re-program all of your changes and use the new stylesheets. Just an idea... I guess i'll find out when the next version comes out. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From rhelwig at flls.org Mon Aug 5 09:36:56 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:36:56 -0400 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008701c23c85$3d054e30$5f046fcf@cns01> In the "toolbar2.xsl" the following line may have something to do with that. You may want to try commenting it out. Rex -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Colleen Medling Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:09 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to zap the word English off the toolbar? I did comment out the lines Ben at TBLC suggested but iPAC just keeps on putting that blasted word on the end. I know that its supposed to be fixed in 2.02... but it would be nice to have a cleaner toolbar. Thanks Colleen Medling Senior Librarian Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System _____ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020805/a08f3764/attachment.html From CarlinD at apsu.edu Mon Aug 5 16:35:33 2002 From: CarlinD at apsu.edu (Carlin, Don) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:35:33 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Changing the color of the blue bar in ipac201 my list? Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738D0@exchange.apsu.edu> Is it possible to change the color of the blue bar in my list? Don't know where to make this change in the ipac admin tool. tia, Don Carlin Austin Peay State University Clarksville, TN 37044 pho 931/221-7384 fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020805/722617c8/attachment.html From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Mon Aug 5 20:37:29 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:37:29 +1200 Subject: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access Message-ID: > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging out when > they place hold or check their "My Account" information? Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons to "sign out" of their account > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and the screen resets itself? Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - seconds until timeout > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the catalog and the links that are listed on an approved links list? Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can shut down PWB. When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then press the power button! We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. --- Stuart Hubbard Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ From gremmelsg at wartburg.edu Tue Aug 6 12:53:17 2002 From: gremmelsg at wartburg.edu (Jill Gremmels) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:53:17 -0500 Subject: [ipac] dates Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020806115110.0181f0e0@spock.wartburg.edu> Dates in our iPac 2.01 are currently displaying in YYYY/MM/DD order. I can see examples in the documentation of dates in MM/DD/YYYY order, so it must be possible to change the format, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how. Can anyone help? Thank you so much! Jill Jill Gremmels gremmelsg at wartburg.edu College Librarian phone: (319) 352-8462 Wartburg College fax: (319) 352-8312 100 Wartburg Blvd. Waverly, IA 50677 From sebrowsk at rhpl.org Tue Aug 6 12:59:15 2002 From: sebrowsk at rhpl.org (Ben Sebrowski) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:59:15 -0400 Subject: [ipac] dates In-Reply-To: <517FE5625DBBD011BDC700805F49639D463CA6@RHPLNET> Message-ID: <517FE5625DBBD011BDC700805F49639D43AE7D@RHPLNET> Jill, It's a string variable. Go into Interface under Customize. Then choose the string variable file you have assigned to your profile. Do a search for Date Format. To edit, change the value to mm/dd/yyyy. Ben Sebrowski Computer Systems Specialist Rochester Hills Public Library 500 Olde Towne Road Rochester, Michigan 48307-2043 Ph.: 248/650-7123 Fax: 248/650-7121 -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Jill Gremmels Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:54 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] dates Dates in our iPac 2.01 are currently displaying in YYYY/MM/DD order. I can see examples in the documentation of dates in MM/DD/YYYY order, so it must be possible to change the format, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how. Can anyone help? Thank you so much! Jill Jill Gremmels gremmelsg at wartburg.edu College Librarian phone: (319) 352-8462 Wartburg College fax: (319) 352-8312 100 Wartburg Blvd. Waverly, IA 50677 _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From medlinc at hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 16:48:31 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:48:31 +0000 Subject: [ipac] Thanks.... Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020806/ccfc58ea/attachment.html From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 6 21:28:52 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:28:52 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Fun with ODBC Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAC4@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Getting frustrated with the iPac admin interface I decided to investigate direct access to the admin database file. It is a database served by Borland's Interbase(installed when you install ipac). So far I have noted that the version iPac installs has no license data/ so I can not set the interbase server up properly. I downloaded a trial version of Interbase and copied the iPac database over to my own PC. I created a ODBC database connection and loaded up MS Access. After that I now have very easy access to the iPac admin database. This should make the process of copying indexes and settings for each of our branch libraries quite fast(copy and past, yea!) Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Thu Aug 8 15:44:02 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:44:02 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Fun with ODBC Message-ID: Bryan, Actually, I think you'll find that it isn't that easy. There are many related tables in the InterBase admin database with keys for resource, source, group codes, UID codes, etc. that all have to relate correctly to each other for each agency you set up. However, we were able to use the interactive SQL capabilities in the InterBase console software to "streamline" some of the processes - notably to change the descriptions for the indexes after they were imported. We also used SQL queries to automatically fix issues of some index information not fully importing - which occurred mostly with some of our bridge indexes for formats (like our Audiobooks indexes). That way we didn't have to re-import each bridge index to get it working (a slow process which we couldn't do anyway after 15-20 agencies were created in iPac). One problem with creating more iPac agency profiles is that as more are created, the response time for many processes in the SA tool slows down considerably, and as mentioned above, the import index utility (NOT the one that is part of the import library wizard) stops working completely (a bug which epixtech is aware of). The InterBase console allowed us to tweak and fix issues that either could not be done in the SA tool, or took a long time to do. It still took from 45 - 60 minutes to created each library. BTW, the ODBC driver that we downloaded was only a trial version that timed out after a week or so unless you purchase it. There was no indication of this timeout when we installed it. Did you find a free one that does not time out? -- Charles ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* >>> bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us 08/06/02 06:28PM >>> Getting frustrated with the iPac admin interface I decided to investigate direct access to the admin database file. It is a database served by Borland's Interbase(installed when you install ipac). So far I have noted that the version iPac installs has no license data/ so I can not set the interbase server up properly. I downloaded a trial version of Interbase and copied the iPac database over to my own PC. I created a ODBC database connection and loaded up MS Access. After that I now have very easy access to the iPac admin database. This should make the process of copying indexes and settings for each of our branch libraries quite fast(copy and past, yea!) Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From CarlinD at apsu.edu Thu Aug 8 17:21:44 2002 From: CarlinD at apsu.edu (Carlin, Don) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:21:44 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201 Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738EB@exchange.apsu.edu> On our ipac, titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201. The only thing that appears is the check out date in the "Out" and the due date in the "Due Date" columns on the Items Out page (My Account > Checked Out. Can anyone tell me how to make titles in My Account > Checked Out tab display? I thought it could be fixed in customize>searching>displays. But itemouts is not listed there and the only place it's referenced in the admin guide is page B6 of the Appendix and listed as itemsout XSL template. tia, Don Carlin Austin Peay State University Clarksville, TN 37044 pho 931/221-7384 fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020808/a59e2e50/attachment.html From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Mon Aug 12 09:02:30 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:02:30 -0500 Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD887@xchg.hclib.org> Hi all, I just finished reworking a Dynix BIB I-descriptor that figures out which format icon should be displayed on the summary screen in our iPac: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm (remote user) http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm?profile=sd (internal user) It's (mostly) based on the MARC leader and fixed field codes, so if you can count on your cataloging to have the right codes in the right places, it might be something you'd be interested in. I'll try to chop it up and explain some of what it's doing. Feel free to contact me if you want to really dig into it and/or you want to see the XSLT that utilizes it. The output of the I-descriptor is the text string "format_icon!" and then one of the following image file names: OO.gif On order - our order records would otherwise all be "Books" QM.gif "Question Mark" - blank gif LP.gif Large Print MF.gif Microform (currently a blank gif) BR.gif Braille (currently a blank gif) ER.gif Electronic Resource BK.gif Book NP.gif Newspaper (currently a blank gif) MA.gif Magazine (currently a blank gif) VHS.gif Video tape DVD.gif DVD AC.gif Audio cassette (non-music) CD.gif Compact Disc (non-music) ACM.gif Audio cassette (music) CDM.gif Compact Disc (musc) Sample output: >LIST BIB L-IPAC.FORMAT2 BIB....... Format icon info.............. 777107 format_icon!BK.gif 777109 format_icon!BK.gif 777110 format_icon!QM.gif 777111 format_icon!BK.gif 307113 format_icon!VHS.gif 307115 format_icon!BK.gif 307116 format_icon!BK.gif 777128 format_icon!AC.gif 777132 format_icon!BK.gif 777138 format_icon!VHS.gif 307133 format_icon!CDM.gif 777139 format_icon!CD.gif 307135 format_icon!ACM.gif Enter DICT NAME : L-IPAC.FORMAT2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ Format icon info 2 FORMAT 30L 3 CONVERSION 1/ 4 FIELD EXPRESSION SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS( TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);S UBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1);"format_i con!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES ,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BA RCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SV M)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "B K.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (I F @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD. gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = " s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "A CM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif" )) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) 5 SINGLE/MULTI S ### END OF RECORD ### Here's the FIELD EXPRESSION again on a single line: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1, "X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1) ;"format_icon!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "BK.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (IF @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "ACM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) The first several sections establish some variables: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1); This looks into the MARC.BIB file and grabs the 7th character of the Leader (the Type of Record code) and saves it as @1. SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1); Same thing for the 8th character of the Leader (the Bibliographic level code), saving it as @2. SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1); Saves the 2nd character of the 007 as @3. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1); Saves the 24th character of the 008 as @4. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1); Saves the 22nd character of the 008 as @5. "format_icon!": This sticks the text string "format_icon!" at the beginning of the output. It's the hook that the XSLT uses to identify the right data. Then comes a whole host of nested IF THEN ELSE statements that decide which icon should be used for the title. The first test is to see if the item is on order (order records would otherwise all be considered Books): IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" In English, this says: "If there are items attached AND all of the items have a status of either AO or AR, then it's on order." The rest of the IF THEN ELSE mess is looking at the various aspects of the Leader, 007, and 008 to determine the format of the title. Again, if you're interested I can give you more information about how I laid this out. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020812/bfbdd8b4/attachment.html From f-mcnamara at uchicago.edu Tue Aug 13 09:34:20 2002 From: f-mcnamara at uchicago.edu (Frances McNamara) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:34:20 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201 In-Reply-To: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738EB@exchange.apsu.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020813083227.00ddf6a0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> We had that problem and they gave us a fix. Our Log number is 1309708. I think you should call support and ask them to take a look at that log to see if what they did for us will help you. I think there is some strange esoteric relationship between how you set up the My List and items out and something else. Good luck. Frances McNamara University of Chicago At 04:21 PM 8/8/02 -0500, you wrote: >On our ipac, titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201. The only thing that appears is the check out date in the "Out" and the due date in the "Due Date" columns on the Items Out page (My Account > Checked Out. > >Can anyone tell me how to make titles in My Account > Checked Out tab display? I thought it could be fixed in customize>searching>displays. But itemouts is not listed there and the only place it's referenced in the admin guide is page B6 of the Appendix and listed as itemsout XSL template. > >tia, > >Don Carlin >Austin Peay State University >Clarksville, TN 37044 > >pho 931/221-7384 >fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020813/aaedc5cb/attachment.html From donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 13 16:53:40 2002 From: donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Cranmer, Donna) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:53:40 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Siouxland Libraries visible Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579017A9D4D@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Hi everyone, For several months, our city IT infrastructure has been undergoing changes, and iPac visibility has been a casualty. However, Jodi Fick and Bryan Jackson (one of our IT staff) have been hard at work on it, even when it was visible only within the network. I've stayed out of this project (they're the creative ones) except a bit on the Dynix side. We feel a bit guilty that we added our site to Susan's list, and practically immediately went invisible. However, as of late last week, it was the final piece in our section of the network that was fixed, so take a look at http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us We expect to go live in September. Staff want training first, so that's the final step here before plugging it in completely. Donna Donna Cranmer Head of Technical Services Siouxland Libraries 201 N. Main Ave. Sioux Falls, SD 57104-6002 605-367-8712 donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us From oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca Tue Aug 13 16:45:53 2002 From: oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca (Leah Oliver) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:45:53 -0700 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In-Reply-To: <008701c23c85$3d054e30$5f046fcf@cns01> Message-ID: <02Aug13.153100pdt.115202@firewall.nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca> I tried commenting these lines out, however, the English label still appears on the main pages. Are there any other ways to remove this label? or are there other lines that need to be commented out in the toolbar2.xsl file? Thank you Leah Oliver -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Rex R. Helwig Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In the "toolbar2.xsl" the following line may have something to do with that. You may want to try commenting it out. Rex -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Colleen Medling Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:09 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to zap the word English off the toolbar? I did comment out the lines Ben at TBLC suggested but iPAC just keeps on putting that blasted word on the end. I know that its supposed to be fixed in 2.02... but it would be nice to have a cleaner toolbar. Thanks Colleen Medling Senior Librarian Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System _____ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020813/7815975b/attachment.html From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Wed Aug 14 01:19:29 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:19:29 +1200 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Wed Aug 14 01:57:37 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:57:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: This is most likely a memory allocation issue. Default allocation for JBoss is 128MB, which is probably not enough for 50 simultaneous users. Epixtech may offer to "tune" your server. If so, take 'em up on it. Here are some suggestions anyway: 1. 1GB RAM: 512MB for JBoss, 2 XSL processors @ 128MB ea. 2. 768MB RAM: 384MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB (or 2 XSL processors @ 96MB) 3. 512MB RAM: 256MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB You can also fiddle with the Jetty thread configuration. The file to do this is located at "c:\epixtech\ipac\JBoss\jboss\conf\jetty\jetty.xml" by default on Windows installations. With 1GB RAM, you should be able to set MaxThreads to 1024 rather than the default of 255. Hope this helps! Best, Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz 08/13/02 22:19 PM >>> We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Wed Aug 14 01:57:37 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:57:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: This is most likely a memory allocation issue. Default allocation for JBoss is 128MB, which is probably not enough for 50 simultaneous users. Epixtech may offer to "tune" your server. If so, take 'em up on it. Here are some suggestions anyway: 1. 1GB RAM: 512MB for JBoss, 2 XSL processors @ 128MB ea. 2. 768MB RAM: 384MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB (or 2 XSL processors @ 96MB) 3. 512MB RAM: 256MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB You can also fiddle with the Jetty thread configuration. The file to do this is located at "c:\epixtech\ipac\JBoss\jboss\conf\jetty\jetty.xml" by default on Windows installations. With 1GB RAM, you should be able to set MaxThreads to 1024 rather than the default of 255. Hope this helps! Best, Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz 08/13/02 22:19 PM >>> We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us Tue Aug 13 18:12:20 2002 From: fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us (Blair, Frank) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:12:20 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Message-ID: Has anyone figured out how to get item barcodes to display on patron records in iPAC? Our paperback readers are chewing us up because they can't renew their uncatalogued items with any certainty as to which item is which. Text-based Dynix handled this by displaying item barcodes. Any ideas or work arounds? Frank Blair Information Systems Specialist Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us From medlinc at hotmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:16:04 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:16:04 +0000 Subject: [ipac] RE: It just won't go away Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020814/524ae3bb/attachment.html From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Thu Aug 15 11:46:47 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:46:47 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD899@xchg.hclib.org> Hi Frank, Yes, this is possible. I was able to edit the file patronpersonaloptions.xsl so that an additional column containing the barcode number is included in the table of items out. Let me know if you're interested in more information. This fix requires you to make "unsupported" changes to the XSL stylesheets which will be overwritten with each upgrade. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Blair, Frank [mailto:fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:12 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Has anyone figured out how to get item barcodes to display on patron records in iPAC? Our paperback readers are chewing us up because they can't renew their uncatalogued items with any certainty as to which item is which. Text-based Dynix handled this by displaying item barcodes. Any ideas or work arounds? Frank Blair Information Systems Specialist Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca Thu Aug 15 10:10:31 2002 From: oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca (Leah Oliver) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:10:31 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Clearing My List (Booklist) - iPac 2.0 Message-ID: <02Aug15.085526pdt.115202@firewall.nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca> How does My List (booklist), get cleared when a user logs out or exits the webpage? Is there a setting to have it automatically empty, or is the user required to clear their list themselves? Thanks, Leah Oliver Systems Technician North Vancouver District Public Library 604-990-5814 oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 13:40:23 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:40:23 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From jfuss at mail.wrl.org Thu Aug 15 13:59:37 2002 From: jfuss at mail.wrl.org (Judy Fuss) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug In-Reply-To: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> Message-ID: Jerry - I have already tried this "fix" with Casey Durfee. Using this entry protocol allows the predefined limits to import inot iPac. However, once there they still do not work due to limitations of iPac to use these limitors in this way. If this works for you please let me know the details. -Judy Fuss On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Jerry Kuntz wrote: > Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. > On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: > READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J > ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: > READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J > > To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > _____________________________________________________________________________ Judy Fuss, Systems Administrator jfuss at mail.wrl.org Williamsburg Regional Library 757-259-7727 7770 Croaker Road FAX 757-259-7798 Williamsburg, VA 23188 From suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu Thu Aug 15 15:21:06 2002 From: suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu (Susan M. Johns) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug In-Reply-To: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> from "Jerry Kuntz" at Aug 15, 2002 01:40:23 PM Message-ID: <200208151921.OAA39020@mail.pittstate.edu> Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of us. Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. You're not alone. q > Susan Johns Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 Pittsburg KS 66762 suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. > On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: > READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J > ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: > READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J > > To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 15:45:15 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:45:15 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151545.AA453050692@ansernet.rcls.org> I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way into >ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to bring them >over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring over. Since >text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek >rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in admin tool. >Hand clearing them out is really not an option for the SA; maybe for >development, but must be a trick for the rest of us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu >http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org Thu Aug 15 16:23:37 2002 From: Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org (Tyckoson, Mary Ellen) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:23:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Thu Aug 15 17:32:44 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:32:44 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: My understanding is that the Windows admin tool is being developed for v2.1. Anyone care to start an office pool to predict its release date? Let's also hope that, in addition to a better and faster admin interface, v2.1 also includes facilities to copy more information from profile to profile. Setting up 95 branches with the current admin tool will drive you to drink, guaranteed! Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org 08/15/02 01:23PM >>> Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 17:40:53 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:40:53 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151740.AA729350402@ansernet.rcls.org> Judy, et al. You're right. These limits with the AND and OR now imported to iPac, but still don't work in searches. Sigh. I just wasted a day correcting them in 50 Dynix accounts. Aren't Casey and Dave looking at the same knowledge base? Is there a knowledge base? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Judy Fuss Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) > >Jerry - > >I have already tried this "fix" with Casey Durfee. Using this entry >protocol allows the predefined limits to import inot iPac. However, once >there they still do not work due to limitations of iPac to use these >limitors in this way. If this works for you please let me know the >details. > >-Judy Fuss > > >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Jerry Kuntz wrote: > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > >_____________________________________________________________________________ >Judy Fuss, Systems Administrator jfuss at mail.wrl.org >Williamsburg Regional Library 757-259-7727 >7770 Croaker Road FAX 757-259-7798 >Williamsburg, VA 23188 > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From a.scott at libr.canterbury.ac.nz Thu Aug 15 17:57:46 2002 From: a.scott at libr.canterbury.ac.nz (Anne Scott (Library)) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:57:46 +1200 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <788519101FDD2942A54E29DD18B83E04017D13A9@cantwe.canterbury.ac.nz> Hi > Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found > their way into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating > each time I tried to bring them over, some of the more unique > ones which it will *not* bring over. Since text-based has > about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek > rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in > admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option > for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for > the rest of us. There are bugs with Horizon as well, it is very difficult to get new ones across. The best advice to to take the time to set these up in Horizon after upgrading to 7.03 but before installing iPac. Although I have never seen them multiplying. Regards Anne From donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us Thu Aug 15 18:24:54 2002 From: donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Cranmer, Donna) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:24:54 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579017A9D56@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org Thu Aug 15 18:52:52 2002 From: Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org (Tyckoson, Mary Ellen) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:52:52 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Donna, thanks for the update. Guess that means I should stockup on gin and tonic and get started on the branches, since they'll never let me wait until November(December....) for internal iPAC use. Heavy sigh. And, of course, I also just realized that my predefined limit of AGENCIES="COAL" OR AGENCIES="HRN" which appeared to be working was actually doing AND, not OR. Luckily, I hadn't responded to the customer satisfaction survey on my predefined limit problems yet.:) Mary Ellen Tyckoson -----Original Message----- From: Cranmer, Donna [mailto:donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:25 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND >> and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND >> READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING >> LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts >> on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov Fri Aug 16 09:51:10 2002 From: Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov (Bursik, Carol J) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 9:51:10 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Message-ID: <"JMD0001-020816135110Z-77758*/PRMD=USDOJ-JCON/ADMD= /C=US/"@MHS> Is it possible to move from iPAC 1.02 to 2.02 or do you have to load 2.01 first? We're trying to plan a project schedule for this fall and just need to know what steps are involved. We realize that nothing from 1.02 will carry over to 2.0. Thanks in advance. Carol Carol J. Bursik Assistant Director for Access and Organization U.S. Department of Justice Libraries Voice: 202.514.5102 FAX: 202.514.2785 Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov From A.Felt at epixtech.com Fri Aug 16 13:33:16 2002 From: A.Felt at epixtech.com (A.Felt at epixtech.com) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:33:16 -0600 Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Message-ID: iPac 2.0x, even though it is called an upgrade to 1.02, is a separate installation. Both iPac 1 and iPac 2 can run simultaneously on Horizon 7.03. As far as I understand it now (nothing's certain until it is released), iPac 2.02 will be both an installation and upgrade. If you are not on iPac 2.01 then you can install 2.02 without installing 2.01. Sincerely, Alison Felt epixtech, inc. Dynix: 1-800-284-3969 ext. 5201 Horizon: 1-800-683-9649 ext. 5201 Fax: 801-223-5202 a.felt at epixtech.com "Bursik, Carol J" Sent by: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org 08/16/2002 07:51 AM Please respond to ipac To: "'ipac at lists.tblc.org'" cc: Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Is it possible to move from iPAC 1.02 to 2.02 or do you have to load 2.01 first? We're trying to plan a project schedule for this fall and just need to know what steps are involved. We realize that nothing from 1.02 will carry over to 2.0. Thanks in advance. Carol Carol J. Bursik Assistant Director for Access and Organization U.S. Department of Justice Libraries Voice: 202.514.5102 FAX: 202.514.2785 Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020816/6e2e3039/attachment.html From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 16 17:57:22 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:57:22 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Importing and running predefined limits with ORs and ANDs has been a problem since ver. 2.00. We discovered that the predefined limits would at least import if you included the attribute name for each AND or OR, but that the search still would not work. Epixtech claimed they fixed the problem with rel. 2.01 (though you still have to edit the query to repeat the attribute name for it to import!), and we discovered and reported to epixtech last week that the OR searches were ANDing instead of ORing (a similar problem that occurred with the boolean OR searches from the Power search menu). The defect number is #4369, so you can check if it has been fixed when epixtech releases the Delta Document for that release. And, Mary, I would suggest that you don't even consider bringing up your 95 branches on iPac until you see what fixes are provided with rel. 2.02. Besides the fact that the web-based iPac admin tool becomes too slow and even dysfunctional for some of the setup functions somewhere between 15 and 20 libraries, there is also the major issue of the iPac service crashing several times during the day when it gets loaded with a large number of connections. I know of three large library systems with 20 or more branches that have this problem after they brought iPac up in-house. - Charles >>> Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org 08/15/02 03:52PM >>> Donna, thanks for the update. Guess that means I should stockup on gin and tonic and get started on the branches, since they'll never let me wait until November(December....) for internal iPAC use. Heavy sigh. And, of course, I also just realized that my predefined limit of AGENCIES="COAL" OR AGENCIES="HRN" which appeared to be working was actually doing AND, not OR. Luckily, I hadn't responded to the customer satisfaction survey on my predefined limit problems yet.:) Mary Ellen Tyckoson -----Original Message----- From: Cranmer, Donna [mailto:donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:25 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND >> and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND >> READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING >> LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts >> on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Tue Aug 20 08:33:31 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:33:31 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <200208200833.AA3903062290@ansernet.rcls.org> Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information from the catalog I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and wrist) Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date ascending, as well as current descending? There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link non-Javascript,add noscript tags -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us Tue Aug 20 09:58:35 2002 From: brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us (CLARK Brenda B) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 06:58:35 -0700 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E75293@ISDEXCH-1> Ouch! I'm interested to see the number of complaints that it's slower than webpac. The number one reason I'm trying to get iPAC running here is all the complaints about webpac and how hard it is to load. Are other people getting the same complaints? Thanks Brenda Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library Portland, OR 97205 -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Sent: 8/20/2002 5:33 AM Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information from the catalog I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and wrist) Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date ascending, as well as current descending? There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link non-Javascript,add noscript tags -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Steven.Heywood at Rochdale.Gov.UK Tue Aug 20 10:04:50 2002 From: Steven.Heywood at Rochdale.Gov.UK (Steven Heywood) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:04:50 +0100 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <56EFC623CE0AC2428C9FA38AC333CA270462DA6C@EXCHANGE.exchange> As a sort-of-user who's been looking around at other people's catalogues lately I've been pleasantly surprised by how quickly iPAC loads and becomes useful, even on the poor old thing that sits on my desk at work. Steven Steven Heywood Systems Manager Rochdale Library Service Wheatsheaf Library Baillie Street Rochdale, England OL16 1JZ Tel: 01706 864967 Fax: 01706 864992 It's summer time on the Page o'Fun. Mind you don't get your feet wet! http://www.rochdale.gov.uk/living/libraries.asp?url=pageOfFun > ---------- > From: CLARK Brenda B[SMTP:brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us] > Reply To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Sent: 20 August 2002 14:58 > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey > > > Ouch! > I'm interested to see the number of complaints that it's slower than > webpac. The number one reason I'm trying to get iPAC running here is > all the complaints about webpac and how hard it is to load. Are other > people getting the same complaints? > > Thanks > > Brenda Clark > ILS Manager > Multnomah County Library > Portland, OR 97205 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Kuntz > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Sent: 8/20/2002 5:33 AM > Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey > > Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this > interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a > user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for > comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: > > I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any > information from the catalog > > I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but > this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It > has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be > found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll > thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the > eyes (and wrist) > > Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. > Webpac is much easier to use. > > I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. > When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication > date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a > time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication > date ascending, as well as current descending? > > There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the > requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many > steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not > measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. > > THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT > ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES > JUST > FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON > THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW > SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT > YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A > COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. > > I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used > the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the > 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to > use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the > application. The iPac is much more user friendly. > > It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! > > I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it > would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot > better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all > whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different > times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In > my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. > > I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to > go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also > got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other > things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the > time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will > give up!!! > > I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be > processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. > > Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, > nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which > library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do > not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. > > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS > ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK > AND > SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH > THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO > GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK > NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. > > Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO > hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. > Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own > library? www.geocities.com/spac646 > > You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books > and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one > book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with > 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa > > Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system > several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability > of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged > in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during > a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with > ipac. > > Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a > real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on > things from ALL of the libraries. > > The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort > through. Using the screen browser for "back" > > Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. > Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). > > Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the > book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it > were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to > someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it > wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. > > Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. > Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results > so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. > Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in > record screen. > > More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix > horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ > 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons > ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add > recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase > timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out > select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link > non-Javascript,add noscript tags > > > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From LuckDL at apsu.edu Tue Aug 20 10:27:29 2002 From: LuckDL at apsu.edu (Luck, Deanne) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:27:29 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE407F63@exchange.apsu.edu> It might make a difference that Jerry seems to have been running Java WebPAC. Our iPAC is certainly faster than our HTML WebPAC. Also, in experimenting from off-campus, it seems that iPAC loads significantly faster if the URL is simply the server name (in our case, http://ipac.apsu.edu/) rather than the whole thing designating the profile (for us, http://ipac.apsu.edu/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=austin). Seems backwards to me, but so far that's the case for us. DeAnne Luck Electronic Resources Librarian Austin Peay State University LuckDL at apsu.edu -----Original Message----- From: CLARK Brenda B [mailto:brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:59 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Ouch! I'm interested to see the number of complaints that it's slower than webpac. The number one reason I'm trying to get iPAC running here is all the complaints about webpac and how hard it is to load. Are other people getting the same complaints? Thanks Brenda Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library Portland, OR 97205 -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Sent: 8/20/2002 5:33 AM Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information from the catalog I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and wrist) Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date ascending, as well as current descending? There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link non-Javascript,add noscript tags -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From brh at richland.lib.sc.us Tue Aug 20 10:30:18 2002 From: brh at richland.lib.sc.us (Heimburger, Bruce) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:30:18 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BC63914@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> We have not seen any issues with speed (or the lack thereof). As a matter of fact, it is a positive point for us. =============== Bruce Heimburger, Technologies Administrator Richland County Public Library, Columbia, SC 803-929-3406 voice; 803-929-3476 fax -----Original Message----- From: CLARK Brenda B [mailto:brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:59 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Ouch! I'm interested to see the number of complaints that it's slower than webpac. The number one reason I'm trying to get iPAC running here is all the complaints about webpac and how hard it is to load. Are other people getting the same complaints? Thanks Brenda Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library Portland, OR 97205 -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Sent: 8/20/2002 5:33 AM Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information from the catalog I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and wrist) Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date ascending, as well as current descending? There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link non-Javascript,add noscript tags -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Tue Aug 20 10:32:58 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:32:58 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <200208201032.AA1396637974@ansernet.rcls.org> I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are caused at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org Tue Aug 20 10:56:05 2002 From: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org (Chip Kruthoffer) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:56:05 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] Message-ID: <20020820145605.19437.qmail@uwdvg001.cms.usa.net> We've had no trouble at all with iPac and patron login time. iPac's overall speed is definitely a positive for us, esp. compared to JavaWP. I think one of the "speed" comparisons people do with JWP, though, is this: JWP allowed the user to scroll through an entire results list, whereas iPac defaults to 10 items at a time. We changed ours to 20 at a time, but it is still a recurring complaint/comment from patrons. Some people just want "thin" results with one click instead of "thick" results over multiple clicks. And some users (*including* sophisticated users) just wanna telnet! :-) "Jerry Kuntz" wrote: > I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are caused at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? > > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org From jfuss at mail.wrl.org Tue Aug 20 11:20:10 2002 From: jfuss at mail.wrl.org (Judy Fuss) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:20:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey In-Reply-To: <200208201032.AA1396637974@ansernet.rcls.org> Message-ID: So far we have launched iPac for staff only preview - going public on Sep 9. But patron login has not caused us any delays. -Judy Fuss On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Jerry Kuntz wrote: > I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are caused at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? > > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > _____________________________________________________________________________ Judy Fuss, Systems Administrator jfuss at mail.wrl.org Williamsburg Regional Library 757-259-7727 7770 Croaker Road FAX 757-259-7798 Williamsburg, VA 23188 From carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us Tue Aug 20 11:38:45 2002 From: carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us (Carol Vaughan) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:38:45 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey In-Reply-To: <200208200833.AA3903062290@ansernet.rcls.org> Message-ID: <001501c2485f$abbabc30$11745fa5@fortbend.lib.tx.us> Jerry, Being a 'newbie' with iPac2 myself, I wondered if the slowness that was being experienced had to do the number of XSL processors? How many do you have? The iPac2 Admin manual addresses how to add additional processors. There is limited coverage on how to tell when you need additional processors. In setting up our iPac2, we have renamed the searches to give them a more descriptive name. We have plenty more work to do on our customization - even though we are live with iPac2. Thank you for sharing you user survey. Carol Vaughan carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us _______________________________________________ Fort Bend County Libraries, Richmond Texas 281.341.2624 ~-----Original Message----- ~From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] ~Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:34 AM ~To: ipac at lists.tblc.org ~Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey ~ ~ ~Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this ~interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac ~pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a ~free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have ~received so far: ~ ~I could not place any books on hold because I could not get ~any information from the catalog ~ ~I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and ~capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and ~search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches ~Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my ~library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru ~their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on ~the eyes (and wrist) ~ ~Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and ~cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. ~ ~I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound ~cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were ~not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens ~and one screen at a ~time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by ~publication date ascending, as well as current descending? ~ ~There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of ~the requested and related information on the screen so there ~aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your ~new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. ~ ~THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU ~WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO ~WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO ~REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK ~UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES ~JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE ~OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A ~COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. ~ ~I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I ~have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at ~work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is ~better because it allows me to ~use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel ~of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. ~ ~It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! ~ ~I tried to login to my account on several different occasions ~and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old ~software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the ~website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home ~or at the library. Several different times the librarians say ~the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I ~wish you would return to the old software. ~ ~I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own ~record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was ~very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do ~another function and look up other things. I hope the system ~improves because I look up my record all the time and like to ~check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! ~ ~I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to ~be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. ~ ~Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure ~out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could ~see which library has the book and when it's due back at the ~library. Do ~not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. ~ ~PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG ~SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE ~OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I ~WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF ~WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ~ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING ~HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. ~ ~Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back ~with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with ~other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps ~listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 ~ ~You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with ~2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert ~also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, ~Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; ~Gosling, Pa ~ ~Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old ~system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the ~improved usability of the new system. In particular, this ~system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I ~found I had to login numerous times during a session with ~webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. ~ ~Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their ~books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you ~were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. ~ ~The condensed search results on the old version was a lot ~faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" ~ ~Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office ~firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use ~the HTML version). ~ ~Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold ~said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. ~Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use ~means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on ~shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. ~ ~Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star ~bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra ~spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen ~without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out ~and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. ~ ~More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, ~fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" ~@ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie ~records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query ~(w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen ~in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear ~history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all ~box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link ~non-Javascript,add noscript tags ~ ~ ~ ~-- ~Jerry Kuntz ~Electronic Resources Consultant ~Ramapo Catskill Library System ~jkuntz at rcls.org ~ ~-- ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~ipac mailing list ~ipac at lists.tblc.org ~http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac ~ From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 20 12:32:11 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:32:11 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAE1@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> We encounter delays at random with our iPac. When I experiment with it, iPac responds nicely except every 20-30 seconds I notice a fairly long pause. An example would be changing over from "Hot Titles" tab to the "Search" or any other action that should be fairly simple. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:33 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac user survey I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are caused at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Greg.Wynn at reading.gov.uk Tue Aug 20 12:52:03 2002 From: Greg.Wynn at reading.gov.uk (Wynn, Greg) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:52:03 +0100 Subject: [ipac] RE: iPac user survey Message-ID: <02Aug20.180306bst.117123@readinggw.reading.gov.uk> We thought iPAC would go done really well when we launched it that we also asked for feedback - thinking that everyone would pat us on the back. The opposite happened - nearly all compaints were about various features that WebPAC had and iPAC doesn't have. After a few days of these I had had enough and removed the "please send us comments " note. Since then I have had very few complaints. I think people take a little time to get used to a new style of things. The load time varies from time to time but is usually "adequate". Thanks for sharing the user results Greg Wynn Reading Central Library UK -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Sent: 8/20/2002 5:33 AM Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information from the catalog I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and wrist) Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. Webpac is much easier to use. I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date ascending, as well as current descending? There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the application. The iPac is much more user friendly. It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I wish you would return to the old software. I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the book and when it's due back at the library. Do not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? www.geocities.com/spac646 You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things from ALL of the libraries. The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort through. Using the screen browser for "back" Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do you contact? Thanks. Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record screen. More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link non-Javascript,add noscript tags -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us Tue Aug 20 17:00:20 2002 From: mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us (Shutt, Michelle Miller) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:00:20 -0400 Subject: [ipac] request item button in 2.0 Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BAFBAA5@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Please forgive any cross-posting. In ipac 1.0 it was possible to remove the "request item" button from the keyword search results list so that it only showed on the full bib. screen. Does anyone know whether there Is a way to remove this in ipac 2.0? Thanks, Michelle ________________________ Michelle C. Miller Shutt Technology Support Librarian II Richland County Public Library 2001 Library of the Year 1431 Assembly St., Columbia SC 29201 (803) 929-3445 From sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Tue Aug 20 18:07:51 2002 From: sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org (Sandra Clockedile) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:07:51 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey References: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E75293@ISDEXCH-1> Message-ID: <002201c24896$073c93e0$e715a8c0@cc2204676a> > I'm interested to see the number of complaints that it's slower than > webpac. The number one reason I'm trying to get iPAC running here is > all the complaints about webpac and how hard it is to load. Are other > people getting the same complaints? I found those speed complaints very interesting because all the anecdotal evidence here suggests that it's much faster. The only complaints I've gotten are from the "usuals" who complain when anything changes -- I'm sure that as they were telling me how much better "the other one" was (Java WebPAC), they had completely forgotten how much they used to complain about it. Of course, if you have the enhanced content, and Syndetics happens to be having a busy day, it can take longer than one would like to display any page with Syndetics content. This is one reason I have removed the book jacket art from the summary screen -- if you're downloading 10-20 jacket cover images, it can bog down a bit. I'd do a more formal survey, but we're in the starting phases of building project, and I think our patrons are survey-ed out right now. :-) Sandy (who really agress with Chip's patrons who want telnet access!) =========================== Sandra Clockedile, Head of Systems sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Wilton (CT) Library Association http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/ catalog: http://catalog.wiltonlibrary.org/ From Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk Wed Aug 21 03:18:49 2002 From: Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk (Rick Alexander) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:18:49 +0100 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: When we went live with ipac 2.0 back in February we did initially have one or two grumbles from our customers, most of these relating to the renewal bug that produced an error when renewing batches of books. Since we upgraded to ipac 2.01 at the beginning of June we have had no complaints at all (in spite of a link to contact us on the welcome page). This is a far cry from the days of Java WebPAC when we had complaints on an almost daily basis............... R.J.Alexander ICT Officer Libraries & Lifelong Learning Wokingham District Council > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Kuntz [SMTP:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:34 PM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey > > Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. > We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part > of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the > comments we have received so far: > > I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any > information from the catalog > > I've got a brand new computer with lots of memory and capabilities, but > this iPac system takeslonger to download and search than the old one. It > has also told me "No Matches Found" when I know a certain author can be > found in my library. It was also easier to pick one author and scroll thru > their book titles - more info in a smaller space - easier on the eyes (and > wrist) > > Please go back to webpac. This iPac is too complicated and cumbersome. > Webpac is much easier to use. > > I sorted a search by publication date and limited it to sound cassettes. > When I saved it to My List, the items were not saved in publication > date. I tried doing all 3 screens and one screen at a > time. Neither worked. Can a feature be added to sort by publication date > ascending, as well as current descending? > > There is too much "fluff" on the screens. Just put the more of the > requested and related information on the screen so there aren't so many > steps to get the information. In short, your new software does not > measure up to the old. It is cumbersome and slow. > > THE JAVA WEBPAC WAS MUCH MUCH BETTER. YOU COULD FIND WHAT YOU WANT ALMOST > INSTANTLY - WITH THIS NEW SYSTEM YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOR AGES JUST FOR > THE PAGE TO LOAD - EVEN FOR IT TO REGISTER YOUR ACCOUNT NUMBER. ON THE OLD > SYSTEM I COULD LOOK UP EVERYTHING I WANTED IN THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM > TAKES AGES JUST TO LOAD THE FIRST PAGE. ALSO WHEN IT LISTS WHAT YOU HAVE > OUT, IT DOESN'T TELL YOU WHETHER IT'S A BOOK, A TAPE OR A COMPUTER GAME. > AND NOW IT WON'T LET ME COMPLETE THIS MESSAGE. > > I think the new iPac is much better than the Java WebPac. I have used the > older Java system and was unable to use it at work because of the 8080 > ports. I think the new iPac is better because it allows me to > use the library anywhere. I also love the new look and feel of the > application. The iPac is much more user friendly. > > It is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy toooooooooooooo slooooooooooooooooow!!! > > I tried to login to my account on several different occasions and it would > only load half way or not at all. Your old software worked a lot better > than the new one. sometimes the website doesn't work at all whether I try > to access it at home or at the library. Several different times the > librarians say the website is down and cannot be accessed. In my opinion I > wish you would return to the old software. > > I had a great deal of trouble with getting into my own record--I had to go > in and out of the catalog 4 times and was very frustrated!! I also got > thrown out when trying to do another function and look up other things. I > hope the system improves because I look up my record all the time and like > to check on my holds. If this continues to happen I will give up!!! > > I just spent seven minutes waiting for my login information to be > processed . . . . still waiting . . . still waiting. > > Go back to the webpac. This one is extremely hard to figure out, nothing > works, confusing overall. I liked that I could see which library has the > book and when it's due back at the library. Do > not like this at all. Not sure if i'm going to continue to use it. > > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE OLD LIBRARY CATALOG SYSTEM. THIS ONE > IS CONFUSING AND IMPOSSIBLE TO USE. THE OLD WAY WAS SO QUICK AND SIMPLE > - I COULD FIND WHATEVER I WANTED IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES. WITH THE NEW > SYSTEM MOST OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS IMPOSSIBLE - I HAD TO GIVE UP. WHEN > I ASKED IT TO SHOW DETAILS OF WHICH LIBRARY HAD A BOOK NOTHING HAPPENED. > PLEASE BRING BACK THE OLD SYSTEM. > > Went to look up "Stony Point Ambulance Corps" and came back with NO hits; > looked up "Ambulance corps" and came back with other county corps. Why > wasn't Stony POint Ambulance corps listed in Stony Point's own library? > www.geocities.com/spac646 > > You have a few duplicate entries: Cross, Amanda is listed with 2 books and > with 39 books (same woman); Michael F. Gilbert also wrote the one book > listed to Michael Gilbert; Crider, Bill wrote both the entry with 35 books > and that with 2 books; Gosling, Pa > > Ipac seems far superior to the webpac system. I used the old system > several times a week, and I'm very pleased with the improved usability of > the new system. In particular, this system seems to keep you logged in > better than webpac did. I found I had to login numerous times during a > session with webpac, and haven't had to reenter my information with ipac. > > Some libraries don't allow you to put a hold on their books/CDs. It's a > real problem and it would be nice if you were able to put a hold on things > from ALL of the libraries. > > The condensed search results on the old version was a lot faster to sort > through. Using the screen browser for "back" > > Very good, fast loading. WebPAC didn't work thru my office firewall. Like > the searching combos you can do(I used to use the HTML version). > > Why isn't IPAC available for each branch? My requests for hold said the > book would be held at Sunshine, not Finkelstein. Would be nice if it were > aware of my home library. Could use means to communicate to someone: Ex: > Catalog said tape was on shelf, but at library, found it wasn't. Who do > you contact? Thanks. > > Put the entries the library owns in bold face or make the star bigger. > Make call numbers more visible. Eliminate extra spacing between results so > more results can fit on the screen without having to cursor down. Make > more visible the Log Out and Help buttons. Include DYNIX number in record > screen. > > More results per screen,permit limits/sorts on larger results, fix > horizontal scroll problem in Netscape(can't see "log out" @ > 800x600-),underline links,post ratings for movie records,larger buttons > ,fix query box so Enter sends query (w/o clicking Go),add > recommended/suggested titles panel seen in other iPAC configs,increase > timeout,prompt users to clear history,add "select all" text to Items Out > select all box,reword Holds to Items Requested,make Help link > non-Javascript,add noscript tags > > > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. 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Helwig) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:04:15 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Library owns copy gif Message-ID: <000701c2492c$6650b870$5f046fcf@cns01> Has anyone replaced the library owns copy * with a graphic file that is a lot easier to read and see? If so, what were the changes you made in the summary.xsl sheet? Rex - Rex R. Helwig Computer Network Services Manager Finger Lakes Library System 119 E. Green St. Ithaca, NY 14850 vox (607) 273-4074 x40 fax (607) 273-3618 http://www/flls.org mailto:rhelwig at flls.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6149 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020821/7b822937/attachment.bin From brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us Thu Aug 22 09:46:45 2002 From: brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us (CLARK Brenda B) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 06:46:45 -0700 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] Message-ID: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E752A2@ISDEXCH-1> I think you're right that some of the "speed" question is really just the newness question -- it's unfamiliar so it seems slower. And some people, as Chip says, just really want telnet and text. That group doesn't care what I put in the web interface as long as their commands stay exactly the same. When I was "just a patron" I used the telnet session because webpac was just excruciatingly slow. Thanks for all the comments. If it's slow at the patron login prompt, I'm going to say that the slight slowness there is more than made up by the fact that it remembers who you are so you don't have to put that barcode in 15 times to make 15 holds! Brenda Brenda B. Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library Portland, OR 97205 503 988-3512 -----Original Message----- From: Chip Kruthoffer [mailto:c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:56 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] We've had no trouble at all with iPac and patron login time. iPac's overall speed is definitely a positive for us, esp. compared to JavaWP. I think one of the "speed" comparisons people do with JWP, though, is this: JWP allowed the user to scroll through an entire results list, whereas iPac defaults to 10 items at a time. We changed ours to 20 at a time, but it is still a recurring complaint/comment from patrons. Some people just want "thin" results with one click instead of "thick" results over multiple clicks. And some users (*including* sophisticated users) just wanna telnet! :-) "Jerry Kuntz" wrote: > I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are caused at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? > From carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us Thu Aug 22 10:19:21 2002 From: carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us (Carol Vaughan) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:19:21 -0500 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] In-Reply-To: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E752A2@ISDEXCH-1> Message-ID: <000001c249e6$e939a4d0$11745fa5@fortbend.lib.tx.us> Brenda, You are right on! >If it's slow at the patron login prompt, I'm >going to say that the slight slowness there is more than made up by the fact t>hat it remembers who you are so you don't have to put that barcode in 15 t>imes to make 15 holds! Carol Vaughan Fort Bend County Libraries 1001 Golfview Drive Richmond, TX 77469 Phone 281.341.2624 Fax 281.341.2685 carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us ~-----Original Message----- ~From: CLARK Brenda B [mailto:brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us] ~Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:47 AM ~To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' ~Subject: RE: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] ~ ~ ~I think you're right that some of the "speed" question is ~really just the ~newness question -- it's unfamiliar so it seems slower. And ~some people, ~as Chip says, just really want telnet and text. That group ~doesn't care ~what I put in the web interface as long as their commands stay ~exactly the ~same. When I was "just a patron" I used the telnet session ~because webpac ~was just excruciatingly slow. ~ ~Thanks for all the comments. If it's slow at the patron login ~prompt, I'm ~going to say that the slight slowness there is more than made ~up by the fact ~that it remembers who you are so you don't have to put that ~barcode in 15 ~times to make 15 holds! ~ ~Brenda ~ ~Brenda B. Clark ~ILS Manager ~Multnomah County Library ~Portland, OR 97205 ~503 988-3512 ~ ~-----Original Message----- ~From: Chip Kruthoffer [mailto:c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org] ~Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:56 AM ~To: ipac at lists.tblc.org ~Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] ~ ~ ~We've had no trouble at all with iPac and patron login time. ~iPac's overall ~speed is definitely a positive for us, esp. compared to JavaWP. ~ ~I think one of the "speed" comparisons people do with JWP, ~though, is this: ~JWP allowed the user to scroll through an entire results list, ~whereas iPac ~defaults to 10 items at a time. We changed ours to 20 at a ~time, but it is ~still a recurring complaint/comment from patrons. Some people just want ~"thin" ~results with one click instead of "thick" results over multiple clicks. ~ ~And some users (*including* sophisticated users) just wanna telnet! :-) ~ ~"Jerry Kuntz" wrote: ~> I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are ~caused ~at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? ~> ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~ipac mailing list ~ipac at lists.tblc.org ~http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac ~ From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 22 10:49:50 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:49:50 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] Message-ID: <200208221049.AA697237794@ansernet.rcls.org> The downside to this, of course, is on public access terminals within the library where one patron jumps onto the workstation before the inactivity timeout (and when the previous patron has not logged out.) We have already had reports of people placing holds on the patron record of the previous patron. This is a major workflow flaw and privacy concern. Ideally, we'd like a switch that could be put on a profile for in-house use that would not create login sessions, but would instead require the barcode/PIN for each operation (as text-based PAC, P4W, and j-WebPAC do). ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Carol Vaughan" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:19:21 -0500 >Brenda, > >You are right on! > >>If it's slow at the patron login prompt, I'm >>going to say that the slight slowness there is more than made up by the >fact >t>hat it remembers who you are so you don't have to put that barcode in 15 >t>imes to make 15 holds! > >Carol Vaughan >Fort Bend County Libraries >1001 Golfview Drive >Richmond, TX 77469 >Phone 281.341.2624 >Fax 281.341.2685 >carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us > >~-----Original Message----- >~From: CLARK Brenda B [mailto:brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us] >~Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 8:47 AM >~To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' >~Subject: RE: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] >~ >~ >~I think you're right that some of the "speed" question is >~really just the >~newness question -- it's unfamiliar so it seems slower. And >~some people, >~as Chip says, just really want telnet and text. That group >~doesn't care >~what I put in the web interface as long as their commands stay >~exactly the >~same. When I was "just a patron" I used the telnet session >~because webpac >~was just excruciatingly slow. >~ >~Thanks for all the comments. If it's slow at the patron login >~prompt, I'm >~going to say that the slight slowness there is more than made >~up by the fact >~that it remembers who you are so you don't have to put that >~barcode in 15 >~times to make 15 holds! >~ >~Brenda >~ >~Brenda B. Clark >~ILS Manager >~Multnomah County Library >~Portland, OR 97205 >~503 988-3512 >~ >~-----Original Message----- >~From: Chip Kruthoffer [mailto:c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org] >~Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 7:56 AM >~To: ipac at lists.tblc.org >~Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac user survey] >~ >~ >~We've had no trouble at all with iPac and patron login time. >~iPac's overall >~speed is definitely a positive for us, esp. compared to JavaWP. >~ >~I think one of the "speed" comparisons people do with JWP, >~though, is this: >~JWP allowed the user to scroll through an entire results list, >~whereas iPac >~defaults to 10 items at a time. We changed ours to 20 at a >~time, but it is >~still a recurring complaint/comment from patrons. Some people just want >~"thin" >~results with one click instead of "thick" results over multiple clicks. >~ >~And some users (*including* sophisticated users) just wanna telnet! :-) >~ >~"Jerry Kuntz" wrote: >~> I suspect that the numerous complaints about slowness in our iPac are >~caused >~at the patron login prompt. Has anyone noticed that? >~> >~ >~_______________________________________________ >~ipac mailing list >~ipac at lists.tblc.org >~http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >~ > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From rhelwig at flls.org Thu Aug 22 10:50:32 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:50:32 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c249eb$63d65bd0$5f046fcf@cns01> I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may have found a work around for the patron logout issue. In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with "Inactivity". I have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the InactivitySeconds=60. By doing this the browser will reset back to the home page (iPac) if there is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If there is any activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. When the reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it starts a new session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server since I haven't tried this on a large scale. [Inactivity] InactivityTimer=True InactivitySeconds=60 InactivityMessageTitle=Warning InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. InactivityAction=Home Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access > > > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging out when > > they place hold or check their "My Account" information? > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons > to "sign out" of their account > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and the > > screen > resets itself? > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - > seconds until timeout > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the > catalog and the > links that are listed on an approved links list? > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can > shut down PWB. > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then > press the power button! > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. > > --- > Stuart Hubbard > Systems Librarian > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________________________ > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please > email the sender immediately and destroy the original > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in > any way. Thank You. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org Thu Aug 22 10:57:36 2002 From: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org (Chip Kruthoffer) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:57:36 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] Message-ID: <20020822145736.4047.qmail@uwdvg007.cms.usa.net> Can't you already accomplish this goal (patron logout for inactivity) from within the timer in iPac? "Rex R. Helwig" wrote: > I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may have found a > work around for the patron logout issue. > > In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with "Inactivity". I > have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the InactivitySeconds=60. By > doing this the browser will reset back to the home page (iPac) if there > is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If there is any > activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. When the > reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it starts a new > session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server since > I haven't tried this on a large scale. > > > [Inactivity] > InactivityTimer=True > InactivitySeconds=60 > InactivityMessageTitle=Warning > InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. > InactivityAction=Home > > Rex > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM > > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access > > > > > > > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging out when > > > they place hold or check their "My Account" information? > > > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons > > to "sign out" of their account > > > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and the > > > screen > > resets itself? > > > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - > > seconds until timeout > > > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the > > catalog and the > > links that are listed on an approved links list? > > > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow > > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can > > shut down PWB. > > > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept > > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely > > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than > > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library > > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then > > press the power button! > > > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's > > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. > > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - > > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. > > > > --- > > Stuart Hubbard > > Systems Librarian > > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ____________________________ > > > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may > > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please > > email the sender immediately and destroy the original > > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in > > any way. Thank You. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ____________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipac mailing list > > ipac at lists.tblc.org > > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org From rhelwig at flls.org Thu Aug 22 11:27:41 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:27:41 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] In-Reply-To: <20020822145736.4047.qmail@uwdvg007.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <000501c249f0$74a38f50$5f046fcf@cns01> Not really. The iPac timer resets the session after a period of iPac inactivity (searching, moving from one screen to another)of course you already know that. The problem is that if you set that inactivity too low, then it will reset without warning while someone is simply viewing the screen. The nice thing about the inactivity timer in PWB is that it will restart its countdown on mouse movement. PWB also will pop a warning that it is about to reset and if you click the "Okay" button or press enter, it will start the count over without resetting the iPac page saving the patron from starting the search over again. In the library we would like to reset the session quicker (for security reasons) while minimizing the chance for a reset while someone is actually viewing their search results. This way we are not resetting the home user as quickly. I think this gives us better security for the in-library patrons that login to their accounts and walk away without logging out. A public relations plus. Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Chip Kruthoffer > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:58 AM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] > Importance: Low > > > Can't you already accomplish this goal (patron logout for > inactivity) from within the timer in iPac? > > > "Rex R. Helwig" wrote: > > I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may > have found a > > work around for the patron logout issue. > > > > In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with > "Inactivity". > > I have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the > InactivitySeconds=60. > > By doing this the browser will reset back to the home page > (iPac) if > > there is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If > there is any > > activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. > When the > > reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it > starts a new > > session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server > > since I haven't tried this on a large scale. > > > > > > [Inactivity] > > InactivityTimer=True > > InactivitySeconds=60 > > InactivityMessageTitle=Warning > > InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. > > InactivityAction=Home > > > > Rex > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > > > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM > > > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > > > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging > out when they > > > > place hold or check their "My Account" information? > > > > > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons > > > to "sign out" of their account > > > > > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and > > > > the > > > > screen > > > resets itself? > > > > > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - > > > seconds until timeout > > > > > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the > > > catalog and the > > > links that are listed on an approved links list? > > > > > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow > > > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can > > > shut down PWB. > > > > > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept > > > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely > > > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than > > > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library > > > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then > > > press the power button! > > > > > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's > > > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. > > > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - > > > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. > > > > > > --- > > > Stuart Hubbard > > > Systems Librarian > > > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > ____________________________ > > > > > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may > > > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please > > > email the sender immediately and destroy the original > > > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in > > > any way. Thank You. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > ____________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ipac mailing list > > > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipac mailing list > > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems > Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org > 300 North Third Street > Hamilton, Ohio 45011 > Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 > Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Thu Aug 22 11:51:24 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:51:24 -0700 Subject: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access Message-ID: Rex, You are right to be concerned about server load in an environment where a new session is created every minute on every computer. If you keep the iPac session timeout of 5 minutes, you would have 4 unused, active sessions sitting in JBoss at any given time. Multiply this by the number of workstations you have configured like this. Epixtech support has stated informally that iPac was never designed to handle more than 500 or 600 simultaneous sessions. Considering iPac's stability problems, you want to have as few simultaneous sessions as possible. It'll also eat up telnet connections. A privacy issue I haven't heard much about is browsers' URL caches and the use of the "back" button. This allows a person to see previous patrons' search/place hold screens. The PWB inactivity timeout is effective in minimizing this IF you also set it to clear the cache. We use PWB and AutoRestart to allow patrons to close the browser after they are done. It clears the cache and automatically launches PWB again, bringing up a fresh iPac "experience" for the next patron. Of course, this only works if patrons are educated to close the browser after they're finished. Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> rhelwig at flls.org 08/22/02 07:50AM >>> I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may have found a work around for the patron logout issue. In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with "Inactivity". I have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the InactivitySeconds=60. By doing this the browser will reset back to the home page (iPac) if there is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If there is any activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. When the reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it starts a new session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server since I haven't tried this on a large scale. [Inactivity] InactivityTimer=True InactivitySeconds=60 InactivityMessageTitle=Warning InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. InactivityAction=Home Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access > > > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging out when > > they place hold or check their "My Account" information? > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons > to "sign out" of their account > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and the > > screen > resets itself? > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - > seconds until timeout > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the > catalog and the > links that are listed on an approved links list? > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can > shut down PWB. > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then > press the power button! > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. > > --- > Stuart Hubbard > Systems Librarian > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________________________ > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please > email the sender immediately and destroy the original > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in > any way. Thank You. > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ____________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From tomc at gmilcs.org Thu Aug 22 12:13:44 2002 From: tomc at gmilcs.org (Tom Corbett) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:13:44 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] In-Reply-To: <000501c249f0$74a38f50$5f046fcf@cns01> Message-ID: Hi everyone, We've experimenting with using PWB for this purpose within our consortium. Beside the lack of a warning prompt, another reason we don't like to use iPAC to reset these sessions is that there can only be one default profile that it resets to. This doesn't cut it in a consortium environment. Please correct me if I'm wrong! We have experienced problems with too many sessions getting opened because of the PWB resets. Our preference now is to have it either exit the browser automatically to whatever menu program you may be using (if any) or have it reset to a transitional web page (i.e.., "Click here to search the catalog"). Another solution is to just make sure that the "InactivityStartOnOpen" is set to false. If so, then when the PWB session resets due to inactivity the timer won't start ticking for the next reset until someone actually touches the workstation again, thus avoiding the problem of new sessions every X number of minutes throughout the day. However, if you have the iPAC server-side resets established then iPAC will eventually reset the session on it's own to your default profile. I hope this rambling helps! Tom Corbett System Administrator GMILCS, Inc. (603) 485-4286 (603) 485-4246 (fax) -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On Behalf Of Rex R. Helwig Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:28 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] Not really. The iPac timer resets the session after a period of iPac inactivity (searching, moving from one screen to another)of course you already know that. The problem is that if you set that inactivity too low, then it will reset without warning while someone is simply viewing the screen. The nice thing about the inactivity timer in PWB is that it will restart its countdown on mouse movement. PWB also will pop a warning that it is about to reset and if you click the "Okay" button or press enter, it will start the count over without resetting the iPac page saving the patron from starting the search over again. In the library we would like to reset the session quicker (for security reasons) while minimizing the chance for a reset while someone is actually viewing their search results. This way we are not resetting the home user as quickly. I think this gives us better security for the in-library patrons that login to their accounts and walk away without logging out. A public relations plus. Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Chip Kruthoffer > Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:58 AM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] > Importance: Low > > > Can't you already accomplish this goal (patron logout for > inactivity) from within the timer in iPac? > > > "Rex R. Helwig" wrote: > > I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may > have found a > > work around for the patron logout issue. > > > > In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with > "Inactivity". > > I have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the > InactivitySeconds=60. > > By doing this the browser will reset back to the home page > (iPac) if > > there is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If > there is any > > activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. > When the > > reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it > starts a new > > session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server > > since I haven't tried this on a large scale. > > > > > > [Inactivity] > > InactivityTimer=True > > InactivitySeconds=60 > > InactivityMessageTitle=Warning > > InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. > > InactivityAction=Home > > > > Rex > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > > > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart > > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM > > > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > > > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging > out when they > > > > place hold or check their "My Account" information? > > > > > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons > > > to "sign out" of their account > > > > > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and > > > > the > > > > screen > > > resets itself? > > > > > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - > > > seconds until timeout > > > > > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the > > > catalog and the > > > links that are listed on an approved links list? > > > > > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow > > > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can > > > shut down PWB. > > > > > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept > > > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely > > > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than > > > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library > > > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then > > > press the power button! > > > > > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's > > > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. > > > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - > > > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. > > > > > > --- > > > Stuart Hubbard > > > Systems Librarian > > > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > ____________________________ > > > > > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may > > > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please > > > email the sender immediately and destroy the original > > > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in > > > any way. Thank You. > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > ____________________________ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ipac mailing list > > > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipac mailing list > > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems > Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org > 300 North Third Street > Hamilton, Ohio 45011 > Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 > Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 22 12:30:46 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:30:46 -0400 Subject: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] Message-ID: <200208221230.AA391053624@ansernet.rcls.org> InactivityStartOnOpen isn't in PWB 2.X anywhere that I can see. I've emailed Scott at Teamsoftwaresolutions to find out how 2.X works. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom Corbett" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:13:44 -0400 >Hi everyone, > >We've experimenting with using PWB for this purpose within our consortium. >Beside the lack of a warning prompt, another reason we don't like to use >iPAC to reset these sessions is that there can only be one default profile >that it resets to. This doesn't cut it in a consortium environment. Please >correct me if I'm wrong! > >We have experienced problems with too many sessions getting opened because >of the PWB resets. Our preference now is to have it either exit the browser >automatically to whatever menu program you may be using (if any) or have it >reset to a transitional web page (i.e.., "Click here to search the >catalog"). > >Another solution is to just make sure that the "InactivityStartOnOpen" is >set to false. If so, then when the PWB session resets due to inactivity the >timer won't start ticking for the next reset until someone actually touches >the workstation again, thus avoiding the problem of new sessions every X >number of minutes throughout the day. However, if you have the iPAC >server-side resets established then iPAC will eventually reset the session >on it's own to your default profile. > >I hope this rambling helps! > >Tom Corbett >System Administrator >GMILCS, Inc. >(603) 485-4286 >(603) 485-4246 (fax) > > >-----Original Message----- >From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On >Behalf Of Rex R. Helwig >Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 11:28 AM >To: ipac at lists.tblc.org >Subject: RE: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] > > >Not really. The iPac timer resets the session after a period of iPac >inactivity (searching, moving from one screen to another)of course you >already know that. The problem is that if you set that inactivity too >low, then it will reset without warning while someone is simply viewing >the screen. The nice thing about the inactivity timer in PWB is that it >will restart its countdown on mouse movement. PWB also will pop a >warning that it is about to reset and if you click the "Okay" button or >press enter, it will start the count over without resetting the iPac >page saving the patron from starting the search over again. In the >library we would like to reset the session quicker (for security >reasons) while minimizing the chance for a reset while someone is >actually viewing their search results. This way we are not resetting >the home user as quickly. >I think this gives us better security for the in-library patrons that >login to their accounts and walk away without logging out. A public >relations plus. > >Rex > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org >> [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Chip Kruthoffer >> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:58 AM >> To: ipac at lists.tblc.org >> Subject: Re: [RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access] >> Importance: Low >> >> >> Can't you already accomplish this goal (patron logout for >> inactivity) from within the timer in iPac? >> >> >> "Rex R. Helwig" wrote: >> > I have been working with Public Web Browser 2.x and may >> have found a >> > work around for the patron logout issue. >> > >> > In the PWB.ini file there is a section that deals with >> "Inactivity". >> > I have changed the InactivityTimer=True and the >> InactivitySeconds=60. >> > By doing this the browser will reset back to the home page >> (iPac) if >> > there is no keyboard or mouse activity in 60 seconds. If >> there is any >> > activity the counter resets and starts counting down again. >> When the >> > reset occurs the patron is effectivly logged out since it >> starts a new >> > session. I do have some concerns on the effect on the iPac server >> > since I haven't tried this on a large scale. >> > >> > >> > [Inactivity] >> > InactivityTimer=True >> > InactivitySeconds=60 >> > InactivityMessageTitle=Warning >> > InactivityMessage=This browser is resetting due to inactivty. >> > InactivityAction=Home >> > >> > Rex >> > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org >> > > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Hubbard, Stuart >> > > Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 PM >> > > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' >> > > Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging >> out when they >> > > > place hold or check their "My Account" information? >> > > >> > > Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons >> > > to "sign out" of their account >> > > >> > > > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and >> > > > the >> > > > screen >> > > resets itself? >> > > >> > > Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - >> > > seconds until timeout >> > > >> > > > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the >> > > catalog and the >> > > links that are listed on an approved links list? >> > > >> > > Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow >> > > Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can >> > > shut down PWB. >> > > >> > > When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept >> > > closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely >> > > patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than >> > > clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library >> > > catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then >> > > press the power button! >> > > >> > > We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's >> > > onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. >> > > we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - >> > > most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. >> > > >> > > --- >> > > Stuart Hubbard >> > > Systems Librarian >> > > Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 >> > > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ >> > > ____________________________ >> > > >> > > Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may >> > > be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please >> > > email the sender immediately and destroy the original >> > > message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in >> > > any way. Thank You. >> > > >> > > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ >> > > ____________________________ >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > ipac mailing list >> > > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > ipac mailing list >> > ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> >> >> >> Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems >> Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org >> 300 North Third Street >> Hamilton, Ohio 45011 >> Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 >> Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 22 12:49:59 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:49:59 -0400 Subject: [ipac] PWB inactivity on start Message-ID: <200208221249.AA3160735914@ansernet.rcls.org> Here's the scoop from PWB's author, "The timers start on open functionality was added to PWB v2.02 revision 2." If you're using PWB 2.x prior to the above release, you might want to get this one. BTW, 2.X loads much quicker and is more attractive than 1.2X, so it may be worth your while to fork out the $100.00 site license. Consider it a "Thank You" to Scott for providing such a great tool. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Thu Aug 22 13:36:08 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:36:08 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Library owns copy gif Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD8B2@xchg.hclib.org> Hi Rex, I opted for a colored table cell around the row number. The changes to summary.xsl were almost all to do with the HTML to make it look nice. One issue that popped up with this method is that when a summary page is printed, the background color is dropped. I got around this by embedding a small triangle-shaped image (gif) inside the cell using the same color as the cell background. It's invisible when you are viewing the summary in the browser, but it highlights library ownership when you print. I also made all of this new code conditional so that remote users don't see any of it. If you want to take a look: http://www.hclib.org/pub/ipac/link2ipac.cfm?profile=mg&term=fourth+hand&inde x=TW Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Rex R. Helwig [mailto:rhelwig at flls.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:04 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] Library owns copy gif Has anyone replaced the library owns copy * with a graphic file that is a lot easier to read and see? If so, what were the changes you made in the summary.xsl sheet? Rex - Rex R. Helwig Computer Network Services Manager Finger Lakes Library System 119 E. Green St. Ithaca, NY 14850 vox (607) 273-4074 x40 fax (607) 273-3618 http://www/flls.org mailto:rhelwig at flls.org << File: Rex R Helwig (rhelwig at flls.org).vcf >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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BTW, 2.X loads much quicker and is more attractive than 1.2X, so it may be worth your while to fork out the $100.00 site license. Consider it a "Thank You" to Scott for providing such a great tool. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From rhelwig at flls.org Thu Aug 22 14:40:52 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:40:52 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Recall help needed Message-ID: <000401c24a0b$71b3ce20$5f046fcf@cns01> This is a cross post. I am trying to get the description of the first of two ISTAT codes in a holdings record so I can use the description in iPac. I have created a dictionary term called L-ISTAT1 which follows: Enter DICT NAME : L-ISTAT1 1 FIELD NAME 1/ iPAC ISTAT1 DESC. 2 FIELD NUMBER 12 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 20 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'IS.';12 2/ G 1 3/ TCODES;X;;1 ### END OF RECORD ### The problem is that when I use this term I get the first codes description repeated twice. It also doesn't seem to matter if I use the "G1" in the correlative or not even though I thought it would limit on the first field in a multi-valued field. The outputlooks like this: LIST HOLDINGS L-ISTAT1 HOLDINGS.... iPAC ISTAT1 DESC.... A14303734090 OVERSIZE COLLECTION OVERSIZE COLLECTION 1 records listed. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. Rex > - Rex R. Helwig Computer Network Services Manager Finger Lakes Library System 119 E. Green St. Ithaca, NY 14850 vox (607) 273-4074 x40 fax (607) 273-3618 http://www/flls.org mailto:rhelwig at flls.org -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 6697 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020822/3b82da34/attachment.bin From jhurley at lmxac.org Thu Aug 22 14:52:16 2002 From: jhurley at lmxac.org (J. Hurley) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:52:16 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Recall help needed References: <000401c24a0b$71b3ce20$5f046fcf@cns01> Message-ID: <028f01c24a0d$1b3ce0c0$6e195dcf@Woody> Rex, I use a pair of PICK dicts to do this: Enter DICT NAME : L-STAT1 1 FIELD NAME 1/ ISTAT 2 FIELD NUMBER 0 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 10 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ THOLDINGS;X;;12 2/ G 1 and Enter DICT NAME : L-STAT.DESC 1 FIELD NAME 1 / DESCRIPTION 2 FIELD NUMBER 0 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 35 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ A;"IS.":N(L-STAT1) 2/ TCODES;X;;1 You post L-STAT.DESC. L-STAT1 runs in the background. I have only used it for Recall reports, but it should display properly. If this doesn't work, you need to use an I-DESCRIPTOR. John Hurley Woodbridge Public Library Library Director George Frederick Plaza (732) 634-4450 ext 248 Woodbridge NJ 07095 FAX (732) 634-1569 www.woodbridge.lib.nj.us jhurley at lmxac.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rex R. Helwig" To: ; Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: [ipac] Recall help needed > This is a cross post. > > I am trying to get the description of the first of two ISTAT codes in a > holdings record so I can use the description in iPac. I have created a > dictionary term called L-ISTAT1 which follows: > > Enter DICT NAME : L-ISTAT1 > 1 FIELD NAME 1/ iPAC ISTAT1 DESC. > 2 FIELD NUMBER 12 > 3 JUSTIFICATION L > 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 20 > 5 CONVERSION 1/ > 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'IS.';12 > 2/ G 1 > 3/ TCODES;X;;1 > ### END OF RECORD ### > > The problem is that when I use this term I get the first codes description > repeated twice. It also doesn't seem to matter if I use the "G1" in the > correlative or not even though I thought it would limit on the first field > in a multi-valued field. The outputlooks like this: > > LIST HOLDINGS L-ISTAT1 > HOLDINGS.... iPAC ISTAT1 DESC.... > > A14303734090 OVERSIZE COLLECTION > > OVERSIZE COLLECTION > > 1 records listed. > > Any guidance would be greatly appreciated. > > Rex > > > - > Rex R. Helwig > Computer Network Services Manager > Finger Lakes Library System > 119 E. Green St. > Ithaca, NY 14850 > vox (607) 273-4074 x40 > fax (607) 273-3618 > http://www/flls.org > mailto:rhelwig at flls.org > > > From HALL11 at niehs.nih.gov Thu Aug 22 16:32:29 2002 From: HALL11 at niehs.nih.gov (Hall.Liz) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 16:32:29 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Question about redirects Message-ID: <077DC0A370A4194D88BBB746859C70D4012A19DE@trollope.niehs.nih.gov> Does anyone know if you can change the color of redirected links? (to look like a url). As it is, I think many patrons may not realize the redirects are clickable.. -------------------------------------------------- Liz Hall Systems Librarian National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences ITSS Contract (919)361-5444 ext 430 hall11 at niehs.nih.gov -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020822/b9aee674/attachment.html From ostrowb at tblc.org Thu Aug 22 16:42:05 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 22 Aug 2002 16:42:05 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Question about redirects In-Reply-To: <077DC0A370A4194D88BBB746859C70D4012A19DE@trollope.niehs.nih.gov> References: <077DC0A370A4194D88BBB746859C70D4012A19DE@trollope.niehs.nih.gov> Message-ID: <1030048925.3249.56.camel@bernie> > Does anyone know if you can change the color of redirected links? (to look like > a url). As it is, I think many patrons may not realize the redirects are > clickable.. This is controlled by the CSS files, which are fairly straightforward and easy to change. Look for ipac.css and ipacNN.css (which latter is applied to Netscape Navigator) and try your changes there. Ben From c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org Fri Aug 23 09:40:17 2002 From: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org (Chip Kruthoffer) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:40:17 -0400 Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? Message-ID: <20020823134017.21110.qmail@uadvg137.cms.usa.net> Anyone successfully hook NOVEList to iPac? I have First Search working. Great that we can hook to holdings now. Anyone doing anything innovative with this? If so, please share. Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org From ostrowb at tblc.org Fri Aug 23 09:52:46 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 23 Aug 2002 09:52:46 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Re: dynix_l iPac Help! In-Reply-To: <000201c24a19$99820cb0$64ab35a8@ALEX> References: <000201c24a19$99820cb0$64ab35a8@ALEX> Message-ID: <1030110766.13400.11.camel@bernie> Alex Hatley wrote: > My library has a large collection of Netlibrary bibs. We use the 655 > field with Electronic books in subfield a. Is there a way to make a > dictionary item that search this marc info out and let it be displayed > as an image on the keyword summary screen? I've done something similar, although we use field 856 for the URL and look for the string "netlibrary" in the corresponding dictionary. You'll find lots of folks interested in this on the ipac list, which you can join at http://lists.tblc.org/ or by asking me privately. To make it work exactly the way you want, you may need to learn some XSL, but I'm always happy to share my code so that you can compare it to what's on your server now. Ben From kledford at npls.org Fri Aug 23 10:21:08 2002 From: kledford at npls.org (Kyle Ledford) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:21:08 -0400 Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL Message-ID: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF1037B44@mailserver.npls.org> Who has tried to use the util to run these as services.. I am just curious what differences you may have noticed or experienced..... I know it is not an Epixtech thing... But that is the same with the customizations....... Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org From suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu Fri Aug 23 10:27:57 2002 From: suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu (Susan M. Johns) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:27:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? In-Reply-To: <20020823134017.21110.qmail@uadvg137.cms.usa.net> from "Chip Kruthoffer" at Aug 23, 2002 09:40:17 AM Message-ID: <200208231427.JAA19228@mail.pittstate.edu> Chip, Haven't done NOVEList yet, nor probably anything innovative. Are you noticing on First Search that all records have the hook, and if the home library does not have the item, the hook still appears and just returns an ipac search that says no items found?? Using the old style hook (where we uploaded ISBN/ISSN files to the host), we only received hook links on ISBNs we had -- now we're getting hook links on everything whether we have it or not-- is this how it is working for you as well? q > Susan Johns Smith Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 Pittsburg KS 66762 suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > Anyone successfully hook NOVEList to iPac? > > I have First Search working. Great that we can hook to holdings now. Anyone > doing anything innovative with this? If so, please share. > > > Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems > Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org > 300 North Third Street > Hamilton, Ohio 45011 > Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 > Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk Fri Aug 23 10:38:43 2002 From: Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk (Rick Alexander) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:38:43 +0100 Subject: [ipac] importing index's Message-ID: I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are available in the correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are working there. When I go into the ipac administration tool, and get to the 'import index' option, the index's I have added are not showing. ET have suggested restarting jboss, which I have tried and it hasn't fixed the problem. Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? Thanks...... Rick Alexander ICT Officer Libraries & Lifelong Learning Shute End, Wokingham RG40 1WN. www.wokingham.gov.uk Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient at the email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Head of Corporate ISIT, Wokingham District Council (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on +44 (0) 118 974 6000 quoting the name of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from your system. This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for viruses using Network Associates Group Shield before dispatch. However, please note that neither Wokingham District Council nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District Council by means of email communications. From alex at ccpl.ci.corpus-christi.tx.us Fri Aug 23 10:24:17 2002 From: alex at ccpl.ci.corpus-christi.tx.us (Alex Hatley) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:24:17 -0500 Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) In-Reply-To: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD887@xchg.hclib.org> Message-ID: <000001c24ab0$d6e9eef0$64ab35a8@ALEX> Phil, I found the i-descriptor, but I have a problem. Every time I run it I get this error Compiling "L-IPAC.FORMAT2". SUBSTRINGS ( TRANS ( MARC.BIB , @ID , F1 , X ) , 7 , 1 ) ; SUBSTRINGS ( TRANS ( MARC.BIB , @ID , F1 , X ) , 8 , 1 ) ; SUBSTRINGS ( Unidentified type "DESC". DESC syntax error I copied what you posted into Dynix, but I do not know what is causing the error. Any ideas? Thanks, Alex Hatley LAN Adminstrator Corpus Christi Public Libraries 805 Comanche Corpus Christi, TX 78401 Phone: 361-880-7045 Fax: 361-880-7046 -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of feilmeyer, phil Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:03 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Hi all, I just finished reworking a Dynix BIB I-descriptor that figures out which format icon should be displayed on the summary screen in our iPac: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm (remote user) http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm?profile=sd (internal user) It's (mostly) based on the MARC leader and fixed field codes, so if you can count on your cataloging to have the right codes in the right places, it might be something you'd be interested in. I'll try to chop it up and explain some of what it's doing. Feel free to contact me if you want to really dig into it and/or you want to see the XSLT that utilizes it. The output of the I-descriptor is the text string "format_icon!" and then one of the following image file names: OO.gif On order - our order records would otherwise all be "Books" QM.gif "Question Mark" - blank gif LP.gif Large Print MF.gif Microform (currently a blank gif) BR.gif Braille (currently a blank gif) ER.gif Electronic Resource BK.gif Book NP.gif Newspaper (currently a blank gif) MA.gif Magazine (currently a blank gif) VHS.gif Video tape DVD.gif DVD AC.gif Audio cassette (non-music) CD.gif Compact Disc (non-music) ACM.gif Audio cassette (music) CDM.gif Compact Disc (musc) Sample output: >LIST BIB L-IPAC.FORMAT2 BIB....... Format icon info.............. 777107 format_icon!BK.gif 777109 format_icon!BK.gif 777110 format_icon!QM.gif 777111 format_icon!BK.gif 307113 format_icon!VHS.gif 307115 format_icon!BK.gif 307116 format_icon!BK.gif 777128 format_icon!AC.gif 777132 format_icon!BK.gif 777138 format_icon!VHS.gif 307133 format_icon!CDM.gif 777139 format_icon!CD.gif 307135 format_icon!ACM.gif Enter DICT NAME : L-IPAC.FORMAT2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ Format icon info 2 FORMAT 30L 3 CONVERSION 1/ 4 FIELD EXPRESSION SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS( TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);S UBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1);"format_i con!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES ,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BA RCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SV M)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "B K.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (I F @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD. gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = " s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "A CM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif" )) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) 5 SINGLE/MULTI S ### END OF RECORD ### Here's the FIELD EXPRESSION again on a single line: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID ,F1,"X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIX ED,22,1);"format_icon!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "BK.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (IF @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "ACM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) The first several sections establish some variables: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1); This looks into the MARC.BIB file and grabs the 7th character of the Leader (the Type of Record code) and saves it as @1. SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1); Same thing for the 8th character of the Leader (the Bibliographic level code), saving it as @2. SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1); Saves the 2nd character of the 007 as @3. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1); Saves the 24th character of the 008 as @4. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1); Saves the 22nd character of the 008 as @5. "format_icon!": This sticks the text string "format_icon!" at the beginning of the output. It's the hook that the XSLT uses to identify the right data. Then comes a whole host of nested IF THEN ELSE statements that decide which icon should be used for the title. The first test is to see if the item is on order (order records would otherwise all be considered Books): IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" In English, this says: "If there are items attached AND all of the items have a status of either AO or AR, then it's on order." The rest of the IF THEN ELSE mess is looking at the various aspects of the Leader, 007, and 008 to determine the format of the title. Again, if you're interested I can give you more information about how I laid this out. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020823/5b5ba59e/attachment.html From phavard at ouachita.lib.la.us Fri Aug 23 11:19:23 2002 From: phavard at ouachita.lib.la.us (Paul Havard) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:19:23 -0500 Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL References: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF1037B44@mailserver.npls.org> Message-ID: <001301c24ab8$7602fb60$824650c7@bibliostat> We were running JBoss and XSL as services until this week. It seemed to work fine that way. Jeff from Epixtech was here this week to reload our iPAC to work with Horizon. He created a script to start all the processes running in command prompt windows. The advantage to running them this way is that you can see the messages from the processes. We have only been using the Horizon version a few days, and ran the Dynix version for a little over a month, so we don't have much experience. Paul Havard Ouachita Parish Public Library Monroe, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyle Ledford To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL > Who has tried to use the util to run these as services.. I am just > curious what differences you may have noticed or experienced..... I > know it is not an Epixtech thing... But that is the same with the > customizations....... > > > Kyle D. Ledford > Assistant System Administrator > Newark Public Library System > 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 > Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 > E-mail: kledford at npls.org > Web: http://www.npls.org > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From rhelwig at flls.org Fri Aug 23 11:52:18 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 11:52:18 -0400 Subject: [ipac] importing index's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c24abd$0f4d1720$5f046fcf@cns01> I had this problem and ep installed a utility to reindex which indexes are available. I had to run the utility in each PAC account as I recall. Ralp Nunn helped me on log # 1305337. Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Rick Alexander > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:39 AM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: [ipac] importing index's > > > I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. > > As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are > available in the correct dynix account (using Add Search in > USMS), and they are working there. When I go into the ipac > administration tool, and get to the 'import index' option, > the index's I have added are not showing. ET have suggested > restarting jboss, which I have tried and it hasn't fixed the problem. > > Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? > > Thanks...... > > Rick Alexander > ICT Officer > Libraries & Lifelong Learning > Shute End, Wokingham > RG40 1WN. > www.wokingham.gov.uk > > > > Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and > do not necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. > > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended > recipient at the email address to which it has been > addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone > other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. > If received in error, please contact Head of Corporate ISIT, > Wokingham District Council (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on > +44 (0) 118 974 6000 quoting the name of the sender and the > addressee and then delete it from your system. > > This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for > viruses using Network Associates Group Shield before > dispatch. However, please note that neither Wokingham > District Council nor the sender accepts any responsibility > for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email > and attachments (if any). > > No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District > Council by means of email communications. > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Fri Aug 23 12:06:11 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 09:06:11 -0700 Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL Message-ID: I've argued my case for running JBoss/XSL as services on this list before, so I won't repeat it. But I'd like to add that, if the only reason you're running them as apps is to get the console information, you're just as well or better off looking at the logs instead: The JBoss logs are at (by default): c:\epixtech\ipac\JBoss\jboss\log The XSL logs are at (by default): c:\epixtech\XSLProcessor\xsl Make shortcuts to them on your desktop, and you're all set. You generally get a lot more history than you would by just looking at the console windows. Of course this also means that you have to scroll down to get the most recent messages. Until the bugs are fixed, we're all keeping a close eye on the logs. Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> phavard at ouachita.lib.la.us 08/23/02 08:19AM >>> We were running JBoss and XSL as services until this week. It seemed to work fine that way. Jeff from Epixtech was here this week to reload our iPAC to work with Horizon. He created a script to start all the processes running in command prompt windows. The advantage to running them this way is that you can see the messages from the processes. We have only been using the Horizon version a few days, and ran the Dynix version for a little over a month, so we don't have much experience. Paul Havard Ouachita Parish Public Library Monroe, LA ----- Original Message ----- From: Kyle Ledford To: Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:21 AM Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL > Who has tried to use the util to run these as services.. I am just > curious what differences you may have noticed or experienced..... I > know it is not an Epixtech thing... But that is the same with the > customizations....... > > > Kyle D. Ledford > Assistant System Administrator > Newark Public Library System > 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 > Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 > E-mail: kledford at npls.org > Web: http://www.npls.org > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Fri Aug 23 12:13:39 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:13:39 -0400 Subject: [ipac] One XSL crash cause Message-ID: <200208231213.AA482345208@ansernet.rcls.org> We've identified one condition that seems to consistently crash the XSL process: when someone in iPAC brings up their patron record overview while someone using Dynix is making a change (like checking in one of the patron's returned books), we've seem the XSL process window just shut down. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From PamS at cityoflafayette.com Fri Aug 23 12:31:31 2002 From: PamS at cityoflafayette.com (Pam Sahr) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:31:31 -0600 Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question Message-ID: <744B5B5FFC6EF644BA4B4DBBEBBF4465179F1B@exchange1.lafayette.ad> Seeking feedback from others with our situation -- iPac will be running on a server which also hosts the city's webpage -- located 2 miles away in City Hall & under the control of a non-library IT staffer. What I am trying to get a handle on is just how much I will have to depend on the city's IT department for the Windows administrative stuff once iPac is fully installed. I am especially wondering about restarts, reboots, etc. We do not share passwords at all -- I don't have any Windows Admin. passwords & the city doesn't have any Dynix passwords. Please give me any advice so I can be prepared for pitfalls ahead of time. Pam Sahr Dynix System Administrator Lafayette Public Library www.cityoflafayette.com/library 775 W. Baseline Rd. Lafayette, CO 80026 303-665-5506 x3808 (voice) 303-665-8936 (fax) pams at cityoflafayette.com From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Fri Aug 23 12:31:52 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:31:52 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Re: One XSL crash cause Message-ID: <200208231231.AA378339568@ansernet.rcls.org> Nevermind. et couldn't reproduce it on their system; and I couldn't reproduce it a third time, after seeing it happen twice within a few minutes. There must have been something else going on. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Jerry Kuntz" Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:13:39 -0400 >We've identified one condition that seems to consistently crash the XSL process: when someone in iPAC brings up their patron record overview while someone using Dynix is making a change (like checking in one of the patron's returned books), we've seem the XSL process window just shut down. > >-- >Jerry Kuntz >Electronic Resources Consultant >Ramapo Catskill Library System >jkuntz at rcls.org > >-- > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From tomc at gmilcs.org Fri Aug 23 13:45:13 2002 From: tomc at gmilcs.org (Tom Corbett) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:45:13 -0400 Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? In-Reply-To: <20020823134017.21110.qmail@uadvg137.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: We've hooked Novelist to iPAC for a few of our libraries. It works well. Tom Corbett System Administrator GMILCS, Inc. (603) 485-4286 (603) 485-4246 (fax) -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On Behalf Of Chip Kruthoffer Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:40 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? Anyone successfully hook NOVEList to iPac? I have First Search working. Great that we can hook to holdings now. Anyone doing anything innovative with this? If so, please share. Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us Fri Aug 23 13:54:34 2002 From: HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us (Richter, Heather) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:54:34 -0400 Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BA0BD21@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Kyle, That was a question we has as well. What we were told is that using the utility to run them is better as far as troubleshooting than running them as services because it will display more information on the screen than a service would display in the log files. The other reason to use them as utilities is because of a bug in the iPac 2.0 administrator. There is a button below apply changes that is called "restart jboss" or something to that effect. That button WILL NOT work unless jboss has been started as a utility. It will shut it down, but never starts it back up if started initially as a service. We run both as utilities and leave them minimized. It's been fine for us so far, but it's your preference. Thanks! Heather Richter -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Ledford [mailto:kledford at npls.org] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 10:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] JBoss & XSL Who has tried to use the util to run these as services.. I am just curious what differences you may have noticed or experienced..... I know it is not an Epixtech thing... But that is the same with the customizations....... Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From becky at mtlaurel.lib.nj.us Fri Aug 23 14:32:24 2002 From: becky at mtlaurel.lib.nj.us (Becky Boydston) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:32:24 -0400 Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? In-Reply-To: <20020823134017.21110.qmail@uadvg137.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: Yes we have it working with Novelist and Ebscohost. Ebsco tech support set up Novelist for me but then I found the instructions on Ebscoadmin and did Ebscohost myself. If you need any specifics let me know. Becky Becky Boydston Head, Technical Services and Systems Mount Laurel Library Mount Laurel, NJ 856-234-7319 x332 -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On Behalf Of Chip Kruthoffer Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:40 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? Anyone successfully hook NOVEList to iPac? I have First Search working. Great that we can hook to holdings now. Anyone doing anything innovative with this? If so, please share. Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Fri Aug 23 14:39:58 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:39:58 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAF5@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> We have a somewhat working relationship with our IT department. In fact, i'm actually employed by them. As of yet our iPac server has not moved, but there are long term plans to do so... mostly for security reasons. However, we will require access to the server via terminal services when it does move over. You will be needing to restart the iPac services on a semi-regular basis, and if your IT department is like ours they are only open 8-5 for the most part. Access to your Library Catalog on the other hand is 24/7. Thus there will still be a *need* for you to be granted passwords and terminal service access to the iPac server. You might want to approach them with that. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Pam Sahr [mailto:PamS at cityoflafayette.com] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 11:32 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question Seeking feedback from others with our situation -- iPac will be running on a server which also hosts the city's webpage -- located 2 miles away in City Hall & under the control of a non-library IT staffer. What I am trying to get a handle on is just how much I will have to depend on the city's IT department for the Windows administrative stuff once iPac is fully installed. I am especially wondering about restarts, reboots, etc. We do not share passwords at all -- I don't have any Windows Admin. passwords & the city doesn't have any Dynix passwords. Please give me any advice so I can be prepared for pitfalls ahead of time. Pam Sahr Dynix System Administrator Lafayette Public Library www.cityoflafayette.com/library 775 W. Baseline Rd. Lafayette, CO 80026 303-665-5506 x3808 (voice) 303-665-8936 (fax) pams at cityoflafayette.com _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Fri Aug 23 15:13:40 2002 From: sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org (Sandra Clockedile) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 15:13:40 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question References: <744B5B5FFC6EF644BA4B4DBBEBBF4465179F1B@exchange1.lafayette.ad> Message-ID: <001a01c24ad9$30dddc00$e715a8c0@cc2204676a> Since the "restart JBoss" button in 2.01, I haven't had to run downstairs and restart JBoss as the server quite as often as I did before, but there are still an awful lot of things that just don't take unless I do so. So, at least when you're doing the heavy tweaking when you first install it, you will have to rely on the IT people to stop and restart the service for you. One thing you will lose if you don't have access to the server (either at the server, across your network, or via FTP), is the ability to do any of the manual tweaking of the CSS and XSL files which many of us have found necessary to get the look and performance we want. You will be limited in your customization to only those things which are controlled by the Admin interface -- and if you've been following discussion on this list for a while, you know that there are some things that just aren't (yet?). Others can probably speak more authoritatively to the issue of restarts necessitated by high traffic volume and other performance issues. Sandy =========================== Sandra Clockedile, MSLIS sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Head of Systems Wilton (CT) Library Association http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/ catalog: http://catalog.wiltonlibrary.org/ From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Sun Aug 25 17:27:14 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:14 +1200 Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question Message-ID: We also have an iPac server which is hosted remotely by our City Council IT department. As we're on the same LAN, I can modify/replace files on the server, but until recently didn't have access to the console. I'd recommend organising remote access to the console (using PC Anywhere or similar) to be able to start/stop processes, and to see any error messages. --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North, NZ > -----Original Message----- > From: Pam Sahr [mailto:PamS at cityoflafayette.com] > Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2002 04:32 > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: [ipac] iPac Administration Question > > > Seeking feedback from others with our situation -- iPac will > be running on a > server which also hosts the city's webpage -- located 2 miles > away in City > Hall & under the control of a non-library IT staffer. > What I am trying to get a handle on is just how much I will > have to depend > on the city's IT department for the Windows administrative > stuff once iPac > is fully installed. I am especially wondering about restarts, > reboots, etc. > We do not share passwords at all -- I don't have any Windows Admin. > passwords & the city doesn't have any Dynix passwords. > Please give me any advice so I can be prepared for pitfalls > ahead of time. > > Pam Sahr > Dynix System Administrator > Lafayette Public Library www.cityoflafayette.com/library > 775 W. Baseline Rd. > Lafayette, CO 80026 > 303-665-5506 x3808 (voice) 303-665-8936 (fax) > pams at cityoflafayette.com > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ From brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us Mon Aug 26 10:02:56 2002 From: brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us (CLARK Brenda B) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 07:02:56 -0700 Subject: [ipac] iPac Help Pages Message-ID: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E752BA@ISDEXCH-1> Has anyone done customization on the help pages and how difficult is it? I know Phil has either changed or just replaced (?) at least some of them. Thanks for any advice. I "know" that hardly anyone uses help screens -- but I have people here who will be unhappy if it isn't correct. Thanks Brenda Brenda B. Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library 801 SW 10th Avenue Portland OR 97205 503 988-3512 From cwhite at rain.org Mon Aug 26 12:27:35 2002 From: cwhite at rain.org (Colleen White) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:27:35 -0700 Subject: [ipac] importing index's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ET told me last week that the problems associated with importing and using indexes will not be corrected until release 2.02 which is supposed to be in beta testing right now. They are expecting to release 2.02 to us in several weeks. Colleen White Ventura County Library cwhite at rain.org -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On Behalf Of Rick Alexander Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:39 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] importing index's I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are available in the correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are working there. When I go into the ipac administration tool, and get to the 'import index' option, the index's I have added are not showing. ET have suggested restarting jboss, which I have tried and it hasn't fixed the problem. Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? Thanks...... Rick Alexander ICT Officer Libraries & Lifelong Learning Shute End, Wokingham RG40 1WN. www.wokingham.gov.uk Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient at the email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Head of Corporate ISIT, Wokingham District Council (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on +44 (0) 118 974 6000 quoting the name of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from your system. This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for viruses using Network Associates Group Shield before dispatch. However, please note that neither Wokingham District Council nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District Council by means of email communications. _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From apuckett at crrl.org Mon Aug 26 13:59:35 2002 From: apuckett at crrl.org (Adriana Puckett) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:59:35 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Bestseller List Message-ID: How are most people setting up their bestseller lists? We have a Bestseller Browse that I have linked to from a tab through the URL field (http://ipac.librarypoint.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=remote). This is not a good way to do this, because it instantiates another instance of iPac and wipes the session variable. Are you using search categories? Redirected searches? TIA for your help, Adriana Puckett Sr. Web Developer Central Rappahannock Regional Library http://www.librarypoint.org 540-372-1144 x285 apuckett at crrl.org From CarlinD at apsu.edu Mon Aug 26 14:44:20 2002 From: CarlinD at apsu.edu (Carlin, Don) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:44:20 -0500 Subject: [ipac] emailing mylist and search results not working in iPac201 Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE17395E@exchange.apsu.edu> Is there a switch somewhere in ipac 2.01 admin that turns emailing search results on and off? Although, the full bib page says that results were emailed, they really weren't in our ipac. It used to work but now it doesn't. We're an Horizon site running ipac 2.01. tia, Don Carlin Austin Peay State University From suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu Mon Aug 26 15:33:08 2002 From: suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu (Susan M. Johns) Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 14:33:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [ipac] emailing mylist and search results not working in iPac201 In-Reply-To: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE17395E@exchange.apsu.edu> from "Carlin, Don" at Aug 26, 2002 01:44:20 PM Message-ID: <200208261933.OAA52238@mail.pittstate.edu> Don, there may be some displays where they work and some where they do not--if I remember correctly there is a bug and not all screens where the option exists may actually work... have you checked the resolutions database? q > Susan Johns Smith Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 Pittsburg KS 66762 suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > Is there a switch somewhere in ipac 2.01 admin that turns emailing search > results on and off? Although, the full bib page says that results were > emailed, they really weren't in our ipac. It used to work but now it > doesn't. We're an Horizon site running ipac 2.01. > > tia, > > Don Carlin > Austin Peay State University > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From N.McVicar at gcal.ac.uk Tue Aug 27 07:00:39 2002 From: N.McVicar at gcal.ac.uk (McVicar Neil) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:00:39 +0100 Subject: [ipac] 'Your local library' string Message-ID: Can't find this in message archive - where can I change the text 'Your Local Library'? Neil McVicar, Library Systems Manager Glasgow Caledonian University, Scotland Tel: (44) 141-331-3853 Fax: (44) 141-331-3006 Email: N.McVicar at gcal.ac.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020827/15b436bf/attachment.html From Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk Tue Aug 27 08:10:34 2002 From: Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk (Rick Alexander) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:10:34 +0100 Subject: [ipac] importing index's Message-ID: Thanks to those who responded to my problem last week. The responses found their way back to the UK Epixtech offices, and it is now fixed............... Rick Alexander > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Alexander [SMTP:Rick.Alexander at wokingham.gov.uk] > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:39 PM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: [ipac] importing index's > > I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. > > As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are available in the > correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are working > there. When I go into the ipac administration tool, and get to the > 'import > index' option, the index's I have added are not showing. ET have > suggested > restarting jboss, which I have tried and it hasn't fixed the problem. > > Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? > > Thanks...... > > Rick Alexander > ICT Officer > Libraries & Lifelong Learning > Shute End, Wokingham > RG40 1WN. > www.wokingham.gov.uk > > > > Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not > necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. > > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient at > the > email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to > or > used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. > If received in error, please contact Head of Corporate ISIT, Wokingham > District Council (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on +44 (0) 118 974 6000 > quoting the name of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from > your system. > > This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for viruses using > Network Associates Group Shield before dispatch. However, please note that > neither Wokingham District Council nor the sender accepts any > responsibility > for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and > attachments > (if any). > > No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District Council by > means of email communications. > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient at the email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Head of Corporate ISIT, Wokingham District Council (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on +44 (0) 118 974 6000 quoting the name of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from your system. This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for viruses using Network Associates Group Shield before dispatch. However, please note that neither Wokingham District Council nor the sender accepts any responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the email and attachments (if any). No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District Council by means of email communications. From SEBERTZ at wartburgseminary.edu Tue Aug 27 08:59:57 2002 From: SEBERTZ at wartburgseminary.edu (SUSAN EBERTZ) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 07:59:57 -0500 Subject: [ipac] multiple hits of a single bib Message-ID: Sometimes we are getting on the results page multiple hits of the same bib record. There is only one item on the bib record but the results page will list the item multiple times. The number of multiple hits seem to vary. Sometimes it is four times. Sometimes 5. It is consistent in the sense that every time we do a general keyword search of "Alan Bennett" we will get four hits of "Theology and Change" which we have only one item record/bib record. But it does not do that with every general keyword search. Any clue on what is going on? We're on iPac 2.01. Thanks! Susan Susan Ebertz Reu Memorial Library Wartburg Theological Seminary Dubuque, Iowa sebertz at wartburgseminary.edu From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Fri Aug 23 11:18:53 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 10:18:53 -0500 Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD8B4@xchg.hclib.org> Hi Alex, This means that the dictionary DESC is not in your BIB file. You'll probably have the same problem with the FIXED dictionary a few lines down. Check your MARC map (UMAP) and see if you've got the 007 and 008 tags mapped, and if so to what BIB dictionaries. Let me know if you have questions. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Alex Hatley [mailto:alex at ccpl.ci.corpus-christi.tx.us] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:24 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Phil, I found the i-descriptor, but I have a problem. Every time I run it I get this error Compiling "L-IPAC.FORMAT2". SUBSTRINGS ( TRANS ( MARC.BIB , @ID , F1 , X ) , 7 , 1 ) ; SUBSTRINGS ( TRANS ( MARC.BIB , @ID , F1 , X ) , 8 , 1 ) ; SUBSTRINGS ( Unidentified type "DESC". DESC syntax error I copied what you posted into Dynix, but I do not know what is causing the error. Any ideas? Thanks, Alex Hatley LAN Adminstrator Corpus Christi Public Libraries 805 Comanche Corpus Christi, TX 78401 Phone: 361-880-7045 Fax: 361-880-7046 -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of feilmeyer, phil Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:03 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Hi all, I just finished reworking a Dynix BIB I-descriptor that figures out which format icon should be displayed on the summary screen in our iPac: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm (remote user) http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm?profile=sd (internal user) It's (mostly) based on the MARC leader and fixed field codes, so if you can count on your cataloging to have the right codes in the right places, it might be something you'd be interested in. I'll try to chop it up and explain some of what it's doing. Feel free to contact me if you want to really dig into it and/or you want to see the XSLT that utilizes it. The output of the I-descriptor is the text string "format_icon!" and then one of the following image file names: OO.gif On order - our order records would otherwise all be "Books" QM.gif "Question Mark" - blank gif LP.gif Large Print MF.gif Microform (currently a blank gif) BR.gif Braille (currently a blank gif) ER.gif Electronic Resource BK.gif Book NP.gif Newspaper (currently a blank gif) MA.gif Magazine (currently a blank gif) VHS.gif Video tape DVD.gif DVD AC.gif Audio cassette (non-music) CD.gif Compact Disc (non-music) ACM.gif Audio cassette (music) CDM.gif Compact Disc (musc) Sample output: >LIST BIB L-IPAC.FORMAT2 BIB....... Format icon info.............. 777107 format_icon!BK.gif 777109 format_icon!BK.gif 777110 format_icon!QM.gif 777111 format_icon!BK.gif 307113 format_icon!VHS.gif 307115 format_icon!BK.gif 307116 format_icon!BK.gif 777128 format_icon!AC.gif 777132 format_icon!BK.gif 777138 format_icon!VHS.gif 307133 format_icon!CDM.gif 777139 format_icon!CD.gif 307135 format_icon!ACM.gif Enter DICT NAME : L-IPAC.FORMAT2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ Format icon info 2 FORMAT 30L 3 CONVERSION 1/ 4 FIELD EXPRESSION SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS( TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);S UBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1);"format_i con!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES ,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BA RCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SV M)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "B K.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (I F @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD. gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = " s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "A CM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif" )) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) 5 SINGLE/MULTI S ### END OF RECORD ### Here's the FIELD EXPRESSION again on a single line: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1, "X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1) ;"format_icon!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "BK.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (IF @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "ACM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) The first several sections establish some variables: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1); This looks into the MARC.BIB file and grabs the 7th character of the Leader (the Type of Record code) and saves it as @1. SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1); Same thing for the 8th character of the Leader (the Bibliographic level code), saving it as @2. SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1); Saves the 2nd character of the 007 as @3. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1); Saves the 24th character of the 008 as @4. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1); Saves the 22nd character of the 008 as @5. "format_icon!": This sticks the text string "format_icon!" at the beginning of the output. It's the hook that the XSLT uses to identify the right data. Then comes a whole host of nested IF THEN ELSE statements that decide which icon should be used for the title. The first test is to see if the item is on order (order records would otherwise all be considered Books): IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" In English, this says: "If there are items attached AND all of the items have a status of either AO or AR, then it's on order." The rest of the IF THEN ELSE mess is looking at the various aspects of the Leader, 007, and 008 to determine the format of the title. Again, if you're interested I can give you more information about how I laid this out. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020823/fbecb39a/attachment.html From gpeterson at hclib.org Tue Aug 27 12:29:51 2002 From: gpeterson at hclib.org (peterson, glenn) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 11:29:51 -0500 Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F59505A3B250@xchg.hclib.org> Paula Desmarais at Ebsco support was able to get it setup and working for us in about a half-hour. They do a combined title keyword/author authority search against the iPac catalog. We're having them point to a Cold Fusion script on our web server that inserts the correct profile (based on IP address), accepts the search variables from Novelist, then redirects the browser to iPac. So their links look something like this: http://www.hclib.org/pub/ipac/link2ipac.cfm?term=Rabbit%20at%20Rest&index=TW &term2=Updike,%20John&index2=AA Our script translates this into: http://catalog.hclib.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=rd&menu=search&aspect=HCL_K eyword_subtab&Sort=&term=rabbit%20at%20rest&index=TW&term=Updike,%20John&ind ex=AA where the profile will vary depending on the user's location. IPac creates and inserts the session id, so the browser Address bar shows: http://catalog.hclib.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=Y0304631649X3.461&profile=r d&menu=search&aspect=HCL_Keyword_subtab&Sort=&term=rabbit%20at%20rest&index= TW&term=Updike,%20John&index=AA ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hennepin County Library Glenn Peterson gpeterson at hclib.org Web Administrator http://www.hclib.org 12601 Ridgedale Drive Voice: 952-847-8659 Minnetonka, MN 55305 Fax: 952-847-8642 ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Chip Kruthoffer [mailto:c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:40 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] hook-to-holdings with NOVEList? Anyone successfully hook NOVEList to iPac? I have First Search working. Great that we can hook to holdings now. Anyone doing anything innovative with this? If so, please share. Chip Kruthoffer, Head of Systems Lane Public Library ~ http://www.lanepl.org 300 North Third Street Hamilton, Ohio 45011 Phone: (513) 785-2706 ~ Fax: (513) 844-6535 Email: c.kruthoffer at lanepl.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us Tue Aug 27 13:05:43 2002 From: wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us (wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:05:43 -0400 Subject: [ipac] importing index's In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D6B7927.3737.A086B@localhost> Hello, We also had this problem. We got a utility from ET called: BUILD.IPAC.MASTER.INDEXES. This utility is run from the Dynix system and rebuilds a file that IPAC uses to import the list of indexes. The log number that we used for this problem is: 1301041 If you call support and mention the utility name, or our log number they should be able to load this onto your system. Hope this helps. -- Charles 'Wes' Osborn Central Library Consortium 614-837-8533 ext. 103 On 26 Aug 2002 at 9:27, Colleen White wrote: > ET told me last week that the problems associated with importing and > using indexes will not be corrected until release 2.02 which is > supposed to be in beta testing right now. They are expecting to > release 2.02 to us in several weeks. Colleen White Ventura County > Library cwhite at rain.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On > Behalf Of Rick Alexander Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:39 AM To: > ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] importing index's > > > I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. > > As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are available in > the correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are > working there. When I go into the ipac administration tool, and get > to the 'import index' option, the index's I have added are not > showing. ET have suggested restarting jboss, which I have tried and > it hasn't fixed the problem. > > Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? > > Thanks...... > > Rick Alexander > ICT Officer > Libraries & Lifelong Learning > Shute End, Wokingham > RG40 1WN. > www.wokingham.gov.uk > > > > Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and do not > necessarily represent those of Wokingham District Council. > > The contents of this email are confidential to the intended recipient > at the email address to which it has been addressed. It may not be > disclosed to or used by anyone other than this addressee, nor may it > be copied in any way. If received in error, please contact Head of > Corporate ISIT, Wokingham District Council > (http://www.wokingham.gov.uk) on +44 (0) 118 974 6000 quoting the name > of the sender and the addressee and then delete it from your system. > > This email and attachments (if any) has been scanned for viruses using > Network Associates Group Shield before dispatch. However, please note > that neither Wokingham District Council nor the sender accepts any > responsibility for viruses and it is your responsibility to scan the > email and attachments (if any). > > No contracts may be concluded on behalf of Wokingham District Council > by means of email communications. > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From HALL11 at niehs.nih.gov Tue Aug 27 13:08:01 2002 From: HALL11 at niehs.nih.gov (Hall.Liz) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:08:01 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Z39.50 Question Message-ID: <077DC0A370A4194D88BBB746859C70D4012A19E7@trollope.niehs.nih.gov> All- I am having problems connecting to other libraries using the Z39.50 setup in iPac2.0 I have tried connecting to some of the libraries in staffpac without any difficulty, but I get the following error in the jboss window in iPac after attempting a Z39.50 search: Parse failed. Aspect not found. Error calling search interface java.lang.NUllPointerException Apparently, I have left some detail out.. but I can not figure out what.. Any help would be most appreciated. Liz -------------------------------------------------- Liz Hall Systems Librarian National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences ITSS Contract (919)361-5444 ext 430 hall11 at niehs.nih.gov From Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net Tue Aug 27 13:25:39 2002 From: Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net (Corey Christians) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:25:39 -0700 Subject: [ipac] importing index's Message-ID: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE1@mail3.cityofprescott.org> I am haveing a problem where I add a library using the wizard and there are no indexes appearing, however once I am out of the wizard I can add the indexes manually. Is this similar to the problem that some of you have had? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Corey Christians Systems Administrator The Yavapai Library Network Prescott, AZ 86303 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -----Original Message----- From: wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us [mailto:wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:06 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] importing index's Hello, We also had this problem. We got a utility from ET called: BUILD.IPAC.MASTER.INDEXES. This utility is run from the Dynix system and rebuilds a file that IPAC uses to import the list of indexes. The log number that we used for this problem is: 1301041 If you call support and mention the utility name, or our log number they should be able to load this onto your system. Hope this helps. -- Charles 'Wes' Osborn Central Library Consortium 614-837-8533 ext. 103 On 26 Aug 2002 at 9:27, Colleen White wrote: > ET told me last week that the problems associated with importing and > using indexes will not be corrected until release 2.02 which is > supposed to be in beta testing right now. They are expecting to > release 2.02 to us in several weeks. Colleen White Ventura County > Library cwhite at rain.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On > Behalf Of Rick Alexander Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:39 AM To: > ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] importing index's > > > I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. > > As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are available in > the correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are > working there. When I go into the ipac administration tool, and get > to the 'import index' option, the index's I have added are not > showing. ET have suggested restarting jboss, which I have tried and > it hasn't fixed the problem. > > Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? > > Thanks...... > > Rick Alexander > ICT Officer > Libraries & Lifelong Learning > Shute End, Wokingham > RG40 1WN. > www.wokingham.gov.uk > > > _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From rhelwig at flls.org Tue Aug 27 13:59:20 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:59:20 -0400 Subject: [ipac] importing index's In-Reply-To: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE1@mail3.cityofprescott.org> Message-ID: <000201c24df3$7847ac70$5f046fcf@cns01> I had that problem when we upgraded from 2.0 to 2.01. I was told that our iPac database was corrupted. At that time the only fix was to uninstall all of the iPac components, reboot and reinstall. Currently, when I add a new library, I don't import any indexes at the import wizard since they come in with the wrong universal ID and results even if I change them at this point. I just end up deleting them and importing them individually. The downside of this is that it takes about a minute and a half for each index import. Rex > -----Original Message----- > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org > [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Corey Christians > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:26 PM > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: RE: [ipac] importing index's > > > I am haveing a problem where I add a library using the wizard > and there are no indexes appearing, however once I am out of > the wizard I can add the indexes manually. Is this similar > to the problem that some of you have had? > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Corey Christians > Systems Administrator > The Yavapai Library Network > Prescott, AZ 86303 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us [mailto:wosborn at clc.lib.oh.us] > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:06 AM > To: ipac at lists.tblc.org > Subject: RE: [ipac] importing index's > > > Hello, > > We also had this problem. We got a utility from ET called: > BUILD.IPAC.MASTER.INDEXES. This utility is run from the Dynix system > and rebuilds a file that IPAC uses to import the list of indexes. > > The log number that we used for this problem is: 1301041 If you call > support and mention the utility name, or our log number they should > be able to load this onto your system. > > Hope this helps. > > -- > Charles 'Wes' Osborn > Central Library Consortium > 614-837-8533 ext. 103 > > On 26 Aug 2002 at 9:27, Colleen White wrote: > > > ET told me last week that the problems associated with > importing and > > using indexes will not be corrected until release 2.02 which is > > supposed to be in beta testing right now. They are expecting to > > release 2.02 to us in several weeks. Colleen White Ventura County > > Library cwhite at rain.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On > > Behalf Of Rick Alexander Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:39 AM To: > > ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] importing index's > > > > > > I'm having troubles importing some index's into ipac. > > > > As per the instructions I have made sure the index's are > available in > > the correct dynix account (using Add Search in USMS), and they are > > working there. When I go into the ipac administration > tool, and get > > to the 'import index' option, the index's I have added are not > > showing. ET have suggested restarting jboss, which I have > tried and > > it hasn't fixed the problem. > > > > Has anyone else come across this, and does any one know a solution? > > > > Thanks...... > > > > Rick Alexander > > ICT Officer > > Libraries & Lifelong Learning > > Shute End, Wokingham > > RG40 1WN. > > www.wokingham.gov.uk > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From ostrowb at tblc.org Tue Aug 27 14:09:02 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 27 Aug 2002 14:09:02 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? Message-ID: <1030471742.19444.79.camel@bernie> I know that many of you have made changes (new tabsets, new variables files, etc.) and copied those changes to new accounts for each branch. I've been going back and forth with epixtech; they swear that it isn't possible to do so. I know there's no EASY way to do so, but what I'm after is the least difficult way. Who's copied changes over to their branch accounts? Can you give me step-by-step instructions? Ben From jumhauer at niagara.edu Tue Aug 27 14:11:03 2002 From: jumhauer at niagara.edu (Joseph Umhauer) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:11:03 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Reference in display Message-ID: <6F39C5B0DAA12C4998475E66DE5543413DDF07@pobox.niagara.edu> Many of our PCs have large resolution which causes the Holdings information to be hidden (at the full bib display) unless you scroll down. This can be a problem with Reference material, since the basic call number shows in the top half but ONLY the holdings information indicates its location in reference. So if you don't scroll, you could go to the regular shelves. The 2 options seem to be: add the collection code to full bib display or delete the call number and force them to scroll down. Anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone done this? If so, how? Thanks, Joe ----------------------------- Joseph Umhauer Head cataloger/System librarian Niagara University Niagara University, NY 14109 716-286-8015 jumhauer at niagara.edu "Optimistic, even in the face of reality." From ostrowb at tblc.org Tue Aug 27 14:09:34 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 27 Aug 2002 14:09:34 -0400 Subject: [ipac] 'Your local library' string In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1030471774.19287.83.camel@bernie> > Can't find this in message archive - where can I change the text 'Your Local > Library'? Where does it appear in iPac? That'll help us find it. Ben From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 27 14:16:35 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:16:35 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCB03@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Ben, I used direct access to one of the tables in interbase to copy all of the indexes to our branch profiles. If your interested in this, I could look-up the table name and give you instructions on how it was done. It took me about a half hour to complete them all. Note though, that I have not tested this as of yet. It may attempt to use the dial telnet pool for all branches as there is some table linkage that eventually leads to the data source pool number. It is, however, properly displaying items at each branch location first and stopping holds when at that branch. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ostrowsky [mailto:ostrowb at tblc.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:09 PM To: ipac Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? I know that many of you have made changes (new tabsets, new variables files, etc.) and copied those changes to new accounts for each branch. I've been going back and forth with epixtech; they swear that it isn't possible to do so. I know there's no EASY way to do so, but what I'm after is the least difficult way. Who's copied changes over to their branch accounts? Can you give me step-by-step instructions? Ben _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 27 14:20:31 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:20:31 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Reference in display Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCB04@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> I'm currently toying with the idea of hiding all but the most important information in the full bib display. Then adding a "More Information" link of some sort to display all the other junk. I think it is very important for the most valued information to allways at least partly appear on a low res screen. Epixtech has done a fairly poor job of designing the layout of all of their screens. I've done a lot of space removal... as well as other cosmetic changes. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Umhauer [mailto:jumhauer at niagara.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:11 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] Reference in display Many of our PCs have large resolution which causes the Holdings information to be hidden (at the full bib display) unless you scroll down. This can be a problem with Reference material, since the basic call number shows in the top half but ONLY the holdings information indicates its location in reference. So if you don't scroll, you could go to the regular shelves. The 2 options seem to be: add the collection code to full bib display or delete the call number and force them to scroll down. Anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone done this? If so, how? Thanks, Joe ----------------------------- Joseph Umhauer Head cataloger/System librarian Niagara University Niagara University, NY 14109 716-286-8015 jumhauer at niagara.edu "Optimistic, even in the face of reality." _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From ostrowb at tblc.org Tue Aug 27 14:25:45 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 27 Aug 2002 14:25:45 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? In-Reply-To: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCB03@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> References: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCB03@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Message-ID: <1030472745.19444.103.camel@bernie> > I used direct access to one of the tables in interbase to copy all of the > indexes to our branch profiles. If your interested in this, I could look-up > the table name and give you instructions on how it was done. It took me > about a half hour to complete them all. Yes, I'd like to try that. Thanks! Ben From medlinc at hotmail.com Tue Aug 27 16:57:10 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:57:10 +0000 Subject: [ipac] Re:Bestsellers List Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020827/b4f3f419/attachment.html From jday at cflc.net Wed Aug 28 15:39:42 2002 From: jday at cflc.net (James Day) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:39:42 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac 2.01 External Search Form Message-ID: <001001c24eca$a87e3940$204c14ac@cecrjames> There was some discussion on a list about creating an external search for iPac. I have done just that for my library homepage. It works with the Dynix version of iPac 2.01. It is not public until Tuesday, but you can take a look at it at http://www.scpl.lib.fl.us/indexipac.html and give it a try. I have put instructions and the HTML on the iPac Zone website at: http://www.scpl.lib.fl.us/ipaczone/externalsearch.html If anyone figures out how to do this for Horizon, please send it for the iPac Zone website. James M. Day Senior Analyst, Computer Unit Seminole County Public Library http://www.scpl.lib.fl.us 407.830.9158 / jday at cflc.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020828/0be28dbb/attachment.html From HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us Wed Aug 28 16:15:50 2002 From: HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us (Richter, Heather) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:15:50 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BA0BD4A@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Excuse any cross posting.... We are having a few issues regarding our Pub Date and our Alpha searches..... The first issue is that when we do an alpha search on something and do the same search using key, we get a different number of results--normally, we get 1 or 2 more results for the key search. The second issue is sorting by pub date for alpha search results. It just does not work. It works fine for key searches, but for alpha, no dice. We have looked at other sites and have seen that theirs does not work either, so we're thinking it could be an "iPac" thing rather than an "us" thing. The last question......has anyone heard about getting the bestseller list in iPac 2.01 to work using Horizon 7.0? Heather Richter Technology Assistant Richland County Public Library 2001 Library of the Year hrichter at richland.lib.sc.us Work: (803) 929-3415 From HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us Wed Aug 28 16:48:04 2002 From: HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us (Richter, Heather) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:48:04 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BA0BD4C@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Well everyone, we can scratch the "second" issue off my list.....I was just told by Epixtech that this is a bug in Stafpac as well as iPac 2.0. The reason it worked in iPac 1 was because it was hard coded. I am waiting on feedback as to if there is a workaround and/or if another release will fix this. -----Original Message----- From: Richter, Heather [mailto:HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:16 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date Excuse any cross posting.... We are having a few issues regarding our Pub Date and our Alpha searches..... The first issue is that when we do an alpha search on something and do the same search using key, we get a different number of results--normally, we get 1 or 2 more results for the key search. The second issue is sorting by pub date for alpha search results. It just does not work. It works fine for key searches, but for alpha, no dice. We have looked at other sites and have seen that theirs does not work either, so we're thinking it could be an "iPac" thing rather than an "us" thing. The last question......has anyone heard about getting the bestseller list in iPac 2.01 to work using Horizon 7.0? Heather Richter Technology Assistant Richland County Public Library 2001 Library of the Year hrichter at richland.lib.sc.us Work: (803) 929-3415 _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net Wed Aug 28 19:05:59 2002 From: Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net (Corey Christians) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 16:05:59 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information Message-ID: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE2@mail3.cityofprescott.org> I was wondering where I alter the copy/holding information. Currently everything is appearing as codes and I want the agency name, Collection name, etc., not codes. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Corey ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Corey Christians Systems Administrator The Yavapai Library Network Prescott, AZ 86303 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Wed Aug 28 19:18:15 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:18:15 +1200 Subject: [ipac] 'Your local library' string Message-ID: Have you checked Setup > Libraries > (your library name) > Library Information? If this field is blank, you'll get that message. --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North -----Original Message----- From: McVicar Neil [mailto:N.McVicar at gcal.ac.uk] Sent: Tuesday, 27 August 2002 23:01 To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] 'Your local library' string Can't find this in message archive - where can I change the text 'Your Local Library'? 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URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020829/20606b6d/attachment.html From mlatimer at spsmail.org Tue Aug 27 09:47:13 2002 From: mlatimer at spsmail.org (Latimer, Mary) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:47:13 -0500 Subject: [ipac] text Message-ID: <0E72253955934E4D8EE081D34D19E090157DA3@SPSMAIL.r12mail.sps.org> We have just recently loaded iPac. We are trying to change the text on some of the search screens, but have not found the way to do it. Can anyone assist? Thanks! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.384 / Virus Database: 216 - Release Date: 8/21/2002 From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 29 11:25:01 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information In-Reply-To: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE2@mail3.cityofprescott.org> Message-ID: Corey, You need DICTs in holdings that translate from the codes file. Here are what ours look like: Enter DICT NAME : K-AGENCY2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ AGENCY2 2 FIELD NUMBER 7 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 5 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'EX.';7 2/ TCODES;X;;1 Enter DICT NAME : T-COLL 1 FIELD NAME 1/ COLL 2 FIELD NUMBER 15 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 20 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'COLL.';15 2/ TCODES;X;;1 You create these in UFD in Dynix. I'll be glad to help, if you haven't done any DICTs before. Sue Byrne On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Corey Christians wrote: > I was wondering where I alter the copy/holding information. Currently > everything is appearing as codes and I want the agency name, Collection > name, etc., not codes. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Corey > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Corey Christians > Systems Administrator > The Yavapai Library Network > Prescott, AZ 86303 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net Thu Aug 29 11:46:36 2002 From: Corey.Christians at cityofprescott.net (Corey Christians) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 08:46:36 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information Message-ID: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE4@mail3.cityofprescott.org> Actually I have all of these already in Dynix (PHEW!). I just don't know where to change the existing DICTS on the IPAC server. I need to change coll to t-coll, etc. Would you happen to know where I can change that on the ipac server? Thanks! Corey -----Original Message----- From: Susan Byrne [mailto:susan at krl.org] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:25 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: Re: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information Corey, You need DICTs in holdings that translate from the codes file. Here are what ours look like: Enter DICT NAME : K-AGENCY2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ AGENCY2 2 FIELD NUMBER 7 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 5 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'EX.';7 2/ TCODES;X;;1 Enter DICT NAME : T-COLL 1 FIELD NAME 1/ COLL 2 FIELD NUMBER 15 3 JUSTIFICATION L 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 20 5 CONVERSION 1/ 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'COLL.';15 2/ TCODES;X;;1 You create these in UFD in Dynix. I'll be glad to help, if you haven't done any DICTs before. Sue Byrne On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Corey Christians wrote: > I was wondering where I alter the copy/holding information. Currently > everything is appearing as codes and I want the agency name, Collection > name, etc., not codes. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Corey > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Corey Christians > Systems Administrator > The Yavapai Library Network > Prescott, AZ 86303 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us Thu Aug 29 12:12:25 2002 From: carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us (Carol Vaughan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:12:25 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date In-Reply-To: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BA0BD4C@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Message-ID: <001f01c24f76$dd33f420$11745fa5@fortbend.lib.tx.us> Heather, You've probably already looked at this -- for your # 1 question below. If the indexes aren't identical, they could pull different items. Thanks for sending in your questions to the list -- Carol Vaughan Fort Bend County Libraries 1001 Golfview Drive Richmond, TX 77469 Phone 281.341.2624 Fax 281.341.2685 carol at fortbend.lib.tx.us ~-----Original Message----- ~From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org]On ~Behalf Of Richter, Heather ~Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 3:48 PM ~To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' ~Subject: RE: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date ~ ~ ~Well everyone, we can scratch the "second" issue off my ~list.....I was just ~told by Epixtech that this is a bug in Stafpac as well as iPac ~2.0. The ~reason it worked in iPac 1 was because it was hard coded. I ~am waiting on ~feedback as to if there is a workaround and/or if another ~release will fix ~this. ~ ~-----Original Message----- ~From: Richter, Heather [mailto:HRichter at richland.lib.sc.us] ~Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 4:16 PM ~To: ipac at lists.tblc.org ~Subject: [ipac] Sorting Pub Date ~ ~ ~Excuse any cross posting.... ~ ~We are having a few issues regarding our Pub Date and our Alpha ~searches..... ~ ~The first issue is that when we do an alpha search on ~something and do the ~same search using key, we get a different number of ~results--normally, we ~get 1 or 2 more results for the key search. ~ ~The second issue is sorting by pub date for alpha search ~results. It just ~does not work. It works fine for key searches, but for alpha, ~no dice. We ~have looked at other sites and have seen that theirs does not ~work either, ~so we're thinking it could be an "iPac" thing rather than an ~"us" thing. ~ ~The last question......has anyone heard about getting the ~bestseller list in ~iPac 2.01 to work using Horizon 7.0? ~ ~Heather Richter ~Technology Assistant ~Richland County Public Library ~2001 Library of the Year ~hrichter at richland.lib.sc.us ~Work: (803) 929-3415 ~ ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~ipac mailing list ~ipac at lists.tblc.org ~http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~ipac mailing list ~ipac at lists.tblc.org ~http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Thu Aug 29 13:12:12 2002 From: sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org (Sandra Clockedile) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:12:12 -0400 Subject: [ipac] text References: <0E72253955934E4D8EE081D34D19E090157DA3@SPSMAIL.r12mail.sps.org> Message-ID: <008301c24f7f$37b75d80$e715a8c0@CC2204676A> >We have just recently loaded iPac. We are trying to >change the text on some of the search screens, but have not >found the way to do it. Can anyone assist? Can you be more specific about which text? An awful lot of it is controlled by the String Variables you can find under Customize > Interface > Variables > [whatever you named your string variables file]. Sandy =========================== Sandra Clockedile, MSLIS Head of Systems sandra_clockedile at wiltonlibrary.org Wilton (CT) Library Association http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/ catalog: http://catalog.wiltonlibrary.org/ From jday at cflc.net Thu Aug 29 13:34:37 2002 From: jday at cflc.net (James Day) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:34:37 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information In-Reply-To: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE4@mail3.cityofprescott.org> Message-ID: <000c01c24f82$595c28f0$204c14ac@cecrjames> This solution and many other common problems are listed in the "Tips, Bugs, and Frequently Asked Questions" documents on the epixtech iPac support site. James M. Day Senior Analyst, Computer Unit Seminole County Public Library http://ipac.scpl.lib.fl.us 407.830.9158 / jday at cflc.net -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Corey Christians Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:47 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information Actually I have all of these already in Dynix (PHEW!). I just don't know where to change the existing DICTS on the IPAC server. I need to change coll to t-coll, etc. Would you happen to know where I can change that on the ipac server? Thanks! Corey From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 29 14:41:39 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information In-Reply-To: <9D49CFB245E6D311B5E600A0CC3DA5996E7CE4@mail3.cityofprescott.org> Message-ID: Sorry, should have included that the first time. It is in Customize>Searching>Displays>Item. Sue On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, Corey Christians wrote: > Actually I have all of these already in Dynix (PHEW!). I just don't know > where to change the existing DICTS on the IPAC server. I need to change > coll to t-coll, etc. Would you happen to know where I can change that on > the ipac server? > Thanks! > > Corey > > -----Original Message----- > From: Susan Byrne [mailto:susan at krl.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 8:25 AM > To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' > Subject: Re: [ipac] Altering the Copy/Holding information > > > > Corey, > You need DICTs in holdings that translate from the codes file. Here are > what ours look like: > > Enter DICT NAME : K-AGENCY2 > 1 FIELD NAME 1/ AGENCY2 > 2 FIELD NUMBER 7 > 3 JUSTIFICATION L > 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 5 > 5 CONVERSION 1/ > 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'EX.';7 > 2/ TCODES;X;;1 > > > Enter DICT NAME : T-COLL > 1 FIELD NAME 1/ COLL > 2 FIELD NUMBER 15 > 3 JUSTIFICATION L > 4 DISPLAY LENGTH 20 > 5 CONVERSION 1/ > 6 CORRELATIVE 1/ C'COLL.';15 > 2/ TCODES;X;;1 > > > You create these in UFD in Dynix. I'll be glad to help, if you haven't > done any DICTs before. > > Sue Byrne > > > > On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Corey Christians wrote: > > > I was wondering where I alter the copy/holding information. Currently > > everything is appearing as codes and I want the agency name, Collection > > name, etc., not codes. Any help is greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Corey > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Corey Christians > > Systems Administrator > > The Yavapai Library Network > > Prescott, AZ 86303 > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ipac mailing list > > ipac at lists.tblc.org > > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > > > > > ************ > Susan Byrne Where are we going? > Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? > Kitsap Regional Library > Bremerton, WA > susan at krl.org > ********************************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Thu Aug 29 16:56:03 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 15:56:03 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Reference in display Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD8CA@exchange.hclib.org> Hi Joseph, I've included reference copy information semi-prominently in both the summary and full bib screens on our iPac. It took quite a lot of customization and is not supported by Epixtech, but it is possible. Take a look at the following summary screen (at present, we have separate bib records for circulating and reference, but I'm hoping that this customization will allow us to finally use a single bib for both): http://www.hclib.org/pub/ipac/link2ipac.cfm?term=norman+crampton&index=AWZ The second and fifth title indicate under the greyed-out Place Hold button that there are reference copies. If there were both reference and "reservable" copies, both would be listed. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Umhauer [mailto:jumhauer at niagara.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:11 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] Reference in display Many of our PCs have large resolution which causes the Holdings information to be hidden (at the full bib display) unless you scroll down. This can be a problem with Reference material, since the basic call number shows in the top half but ONLY the holdings information indicates its location in reference. So if you don't scroll, you could go to the regular shelves. The 2 options seem to be: add the collection code to full bib display or delete the call number and force them to scroll down. Anyone have any other suggestions? Has anyone done this? If so, how? Thanks, Joe ----------------------------- Joseph Umhauer Head cataloger/System librarian Niagara University Niagara University, NY 14109 716-286-8015 jumhauer at niagara.edu "Optimistic, even in the face of reality." _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From kkye at oppl.org Thu Aug 29 17:14:40 2002 From: kkye at oppl.org (Kwang Kye) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 16:14:40 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Security: iPac Port Access Message-ID: <3D6E8EC0.8DE406BA@oppl.org> Just a heads up to everyone on the ipac list. While I was researching why my ipac server runs like it does. I came across this link: http://www.jboss.org/online-manual/HTML/ch09s11.html Which basically describes that an administration port of 8082 is available on Jboss. Put that port following my ipacserver url into my web browser and I was in. Not quite sure on what all the options do, but some of them definitely look like they would cost me some pain and time lost if someone besides me or epixtech support got into it. So I suggest you control access to this port from both your internal lan and the Internet using a firewall or you should be able to do this with access control lists on Cisco routers as well. Of course, you should make sure Epixtech support can access it. Because despite the fact that's in not documented, I think they they use it. But I'm really just guessing on that one. Kwang -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: kkye.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 288 bytes Desc: Card for Kwang S. Kye Url : http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020829/33719b60/attachment.vcf From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Thu Aug 29 19:28:15 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:28:15 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Security: iPac Port Access Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCB15@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> There are two files with configuration information for this. I removed the mbean that deals with this admin page. Our catalog no longer has this problem. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Kwang Kye [mailto:kkye at oppl.org] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 4:15 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] Security: iPac Port Access Just a heads up to everyone on the ipac list. While I was researching why my ipac server runs like it does. I came across this link: http://www.jboss.org/online-manual/HTML/ch09s11.html Which basically describes that an administration port of 8082 is available on Jboss. Put that port following my ipacserver url into my web browser and I was in. Not quite sure on what all the options do, but some of them definitely look like they would cost me some pain and time lost if someone besides me or epixtech support got into it. So I suggest you control access to this port from both your internal lan and the Internet using a firewall or you should be able to do this with access control lists on Cisco routers as well. Of course, you should make sure Epixtech support can access it. Because despite the fact that's in not documented, I think they they use it. But I'm really just guessing on that one. Kwang From CHUDSON at flower-mound.com Fri Aug 30 14:45:43 2002 From: CHUDSON at flower-mound.com (Connie Hudson) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:45:43 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Help with Error Msg Message-ID: One of our borrowers gets the following error message when she tries to access iPac 2.01: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CLng' /bin/n_libBase64.asp, line 161 Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks. Connie Hudson, Systems Coordinator chudson at flower-mound.com Flower Mound Public Library 3030 Broadmoor Flower Mound, TX 75022 972-874-6161 fax 972-874-6466 From rgale at npls.org Fri Aug 30 15:08:03 2002 From: rgale at npls.org (Bob Gale) Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:08:03 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Help with Error Msg Message-ID: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF13FCF66@mailserver.npls.org> Connie-- we have patrons getting this message too and we have not figured out the problem as yet. You are not alone.... Bob Robert J. Gale MSLS, MAPPM Newark Public Library System Head of Technical Services/Automation System Administrator 101 West Main Street Newark, OH 43055 Ph: 740-349-5581 Fax: 740-349-5575 e-mail: rgale at npls.org http://www.npls.org -----Original Message----- From: Connie Hudson [mailto:CHUDSON at flower-mound.com] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:46 PM To: 'iPac List' Subject: [ipac] Help with Error Msg One of our borrowers gets the following error message when she tries to access iPac 2.01: Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d' Type mismatch: 'CLng' /bin/n_libBase64.asp, line 161 Does this sound familiar to anyone? Thanks. Connie Hudson, Systems Coordinator chudson at flower-mound.com Flower Mound Public Library 3030 Broadmoor Flower Mound, TX 75022 972-874-6161 fax 972-874-6466 _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us Sat Aug 31 05:56:47 2002 From: brenda.b.clark at co.multnomah.or.us (CLARK Brenda B) Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 02:56:47 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? Message-ID: <9D07D10FA5CAD21192620008C7B14D2902E7530B@ISDEXCH-1> Hi, Bryan I'd be interested in how you did that also. I think you said in a previous post that you set up a copy of the admin database and then copied then changes into it? thanks Brenda Brenda B. Clark ILS Manager Multnomah County Library 801 SW 10th Avenue Portland OR 97205 503 988-3512 -----Original Message----- From: Jackson, Bryan [mailto:bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:17 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? Ben, I used direct access to one of the tables in interbase to copy all of the indexes to our branch profiles. If your interested in this, I could look-up the table name and give you instructions on how it was done. It took me about a half hour to complete them all. Note though, that I have not tested this as of yet. It may attempt to use the dial telnet pool for all branches as there is some table linkage that eventually leads to the data source pool number. It is, however, properly displaying items at each branch location first and stopping holds when at that branch. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Ben Ostrowsky [mailto:ostrowb at tblc.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:09 PM To: ipac Subject: [ipac] Instructions for copying changes to new accounts? I know that many of you have made changes (new tabsets, new variables files, etc.) and copied those changes to new accounts for each branch. I've been going back and forth with epixtech; they swear that it isn't possible to do so. I know there's no EASY way to do so, but what I'm after is the least difficult way. Who's copied changes over to their branch accounts? Can you give me step-by-step instructions? Ben _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac