From rlogan23 at earthlink.net Thu Aug 1 13:10:15 2002 From: rlogan23 at earthlink.net (Rochelle Logan) Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:10:15 -0600 Subject: [ipac] Comment box Message-ID: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months later on popular items). -- Rochelle Logan Associate Director of Support Services Douglas Public Library District Castle Rock, Colorado rlogan23 at earthlink.net http://www.dpld.org/ 303.663.1560 From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 1 13:35:50 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] Comment box In-Reply-To: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: It is in Customize>Interface>Variables>Preferences>Patron Options Change it to false and it is gone... Finally, a question I can answer instead of asking one. Maybe I am making progress 8^) Sue On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rochelle Logan wrote: > Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request > Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have > found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation > staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months > later on popular items). > > -- > Rochelle Logan > Associate Director of Support Services > Douglas Public Library District > Castle Rock, Colorado > rlogan23 at earthlink.net > http://www.dpld.org/ > 303.663.1560 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From vargasr at howa.lib.md.us Thu Aug 1 13:45:44 2002 From: vargasr at howa.lib.md.us (Ruth Vargas) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:45:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ipac] Comment box In-Reply-To: <3D496B77.2466584A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: There a variable that should do the trick. Variables > Preferences > Patron Options > Allow patron to enter comments when placing a request. We're getting ready to do the same but I haven't actually tried it yet. Ruth Ruth Vargas -- Systems Operations Manager / Automation Supervisor Howard County Library voice: (410) 313-7923 10375 Little Patuxent Parkway fax: (410) 313-7864 Columbia, MD, USA 21044 email: vargasr at HCLibrary.org iPac catalog: http://ipac-HCLibrary.org On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Rochelle Logan wrote: > Has anyone tried to get rid of the comment box on the Request > Confirmation Screen at the point where patrons request holds? We have > found that patrons type in time sensitive comments and the circulation > staff doesn't see it until the hold is filled (can be weeks or months > later on popular items). > > -- > Rochelle Logan > Associate Director of Support Services > Douglas Public Library District > Castle Rock, Colorado > rlogan23 at earthlink.net > http://www.dpld.org/ > 303.663.1560 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From susan at krl.org Thu Aug 1 14:37:40 2002 From: susan at krl.org (Susan Byrne) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] My List Question Message-ID: Is there any way to add sorts or limits to My List? This question comes out of the discussion of the inability to choose all of the See Also items at once like you can in Dynix text. I thought perhaps a work around would be to add each group into My List and then go through them there. I guess My List must do a default sort by title, but it might be handy to be able to make a choice. Ideally, I suppose, being able to select the records in multiple headings would be the simplest solution. Thanks, Sue ************ Susan Byrne Where are we going? Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? Kitsap Regional Library Bremerton, WA susan at krl.org ********************************************* From mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us Thu Aug 1 14:55:39 2002 From: mmshutt at richland.lib.sc.us (Shutt, Michelle Miller) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:55:39 -0400 Subject: [ipac] changing pages in ipac 2.0 Message-ID: <11417B1F1D0FD511AD990008C733A00BAFB976@riker.richland.lib.sc.us> Forgive any cross-postings - We have just installed Ipac 2.0 and are working on the configuration. What we'd like to have is a basic search -a drop-down menu with all the search indexes, and and advanced search - the same drop-down menu with the all the search indexes, and then all the sort and limit options. As far as I can see, this is not possible. It seems that in order to have the sort/limit options, you must use the power or advanced search - which is a different configuration of the search indexes. It appears you can create new pages from the XSL templates, but there doesn't seem to be a template for what we want - the search and limit options are only on the templates with the multi-field and boolean searches. Is there any way to do this, or are we stuck with the power and advanced search fields that are already set up? (I know we can determine which fields we want to show on the advanced screen, but that still doesn't help us) Any suggestions would be helpful. thanks Michelle ________________________ Michelle C. Miller Shutt Technology Support Librarian II Richland County Public Library 2001 Library of the Year 1431 Assembly St., Columbia SC 29201 (803) 929-3445 From kledford at npls.org Thu Aug 1 17:05:37 2002 From: kledford at npls.org (Kyle Ledford) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:05:37 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are branches. Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org From george at lincc.lib.or.us Thu Aug 1 18:42:08 2002 From: george at lincc.lib.or.us (George Yobst) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Message-ID: Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus From george at lincc.lib.or.us Thu Aug 1 19:49:00 2002 From: george at lincc.lib.or.us (George Yobst) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 16:49:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [ipac] My List Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Susan, AFAIK, you have to create the sort or limit in the Dynix account, then import into iPac. But, I think there's a bug in 2.01, so when you go to import a 2nd set of them, it displays wrong and generally doesn't work. -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Susan Byrne wrote: * *Is there any way to add sorts or limits to My List? This question comes *out of the discussion of the inability to choose all of the See Also items *at once like you can in Dynix text. I thought perhaps a work around would *be to add each group into My List and then go through them there. I guess *My List must do a default sort by title, but it might be handy to be able *to make a choice. Ideally, I suppose, being able to select the records in *multiple headings would be the simplest solution. * * Thanks, Sue * * * * ************ * Susan Byrne Where are we going? * Computer Services And what's with this handbasket? * Kitsap Regional Library * Bremerton, WA * susan at krl.org * ********************************************* * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus From ostrowb at tblc.org Fri Aug 2 08:44:25 2002 From: ostrowb at tblc.org (Ben Ostrowsky) Date: 02 Aug 2002 08:44:25 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> References: <1E76973EA1AD604A97BDAB4E8814EFF101D3A7@mailserver.npls.org> Message-ID: <1028292266.29876.55.camel@bernie> > Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are > you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... > Hard coding? I use GNU Emacs for Windows to edit our XSL stylesheets. I installed the xslide module and added this to my .emacs file (c:\_emacs, actually): ;; XSL mode (autoload 'xsl-mode "xslide" "Major mode for XSL stylesheets." t) ;; Turn on font lock when in XSL mode (add-hook 'xsl-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) (setq auto-mode-alist (append (list '("\\.fo" . xsl-mode) '("\\.xsl" . xsl-mode)) auto-mode-alist)) ;; Uncomment if using abbreviations ;; (abbrev-mode t) (setq default-tab-width 2) GNU Emacs definitely takes some getting used to, but it's powerful, and I like the way it handles extremely long lines of code. Every now and then I copy d:\epixtech (separate partition for applications, y'know) to a backup partition, and every other now and then I put a copy on a file server. Ben From eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us Fri Aug 2 09:20:43 2002 From: eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us (Eileen Kontrovitz) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:20:43 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org Fri Aug 2 10:13:19 2002 From: GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org (Helfrich, Gair) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:13:19 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Fri Aug 2 11:03:09 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:03:09 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD861@xchg.hclib.org> There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us Fri Aug 2 11:38:09 2002 From: eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us (Eileen Kontrovitz) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:38:09 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm betting money you loose the customization? Any takers? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Helfrich, Gair Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From ABOWERS at acmail.aclink.org Fri Aug 2 12:25:31 2002 From: ABOWERS at acmail.aclink.org (Bowers, Alyce) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:25:31 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: Beautiful page. Could you briefly describe what parts of the pages required the customization of the XSL stylesheets? Sorry to ask such an elementary question, but we are trying to decide if we can do some of this kind of stuff. Definitely need to do the first two and are using them. And glad to hear that this work will carry over with the upgrades. Alyce J. Bowers - Atlantic County Library -----Original Message----- From: feilmeyer, phil [mailto:pfeilmeyer at hclib.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:03 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 2 13:36:30 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 10:36:30 -0700 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: At Seattle Public Library we have customized the same three areas Phil has indicated, as well as the CSS files (cascading style sheets - which I suspect Phil has also customized) While we have not done as much customization of the XSL style sheets as has Hennepin or Tampa Bay, what custom work we have done has been done in a way that can be controlled or modified using variables we have created in the string.xsl, onoff.xsl, image.xsl, other.xsl and vardesc.xml files. That way our customizations can be turned on or off or modified using the iPac Admin tool. I have spent much time customizing the xsl sheets in attempts to resolve some of the current bugs in iPac. Usually this ends up being frustrating as I run into problems caused by hard-code that prevents a fully satisfactory fix or leads to a dead end. So, we eagerly await versions 2.02 and 2.1. A major effort was producing the xsl sheets for our iPac "home" welcome page. This was a major modification to the news.xsl sheet provided by epixtech. It is a work in progress, and there are several features and design changes that I hope to make when I can get back to it. It's best to look at our customized pages using an "in library" account, as some of the features are turned off in the dial account (like the "owns a copy" message). Our Central Library URL is: http://ipac.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=dwn One of our branch catalogs is: http://ipac.spl.org/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=net Our external (dial) pac is: http://ipac.spl.org/ For editing the XML/XSL I have been using the JEXT editor, a freeware (Released under GNU GPL license) Java programmer's text editor. It is programmed in Java, therefore some functions are slow, but it also comes in versions that run on Windows, MAC OS, and Linux. What I like is that it uses syntax colorizing for Java, Perl, HTML, XML, and XSL, as well as many other languages, provides context sensitive automatic tag completion, allows multi document editing and the capability to save workspaces of several files. It has a 5-cow rating from Tucows. You can get it from Tucows or http://www.jext.org/ I am concerned about how much work will be involved when we upgrade, as we will probably have to redo most if not all of the changes to the xsl and css files. Since epixtech has indicated that it is developing on a Windows client-based admin tool for future release, I'm also concerned about how it will deal with the changes I have made to the variables files. They currently work great in the web-based tool, as it dynamically creates the lists of variables to edit using the vardesc.xml file. Therefore, any additions I make can be modified using the SA tool. As Phil mentioned, there is a learning curve using XML and XSL, as well as understanding the relationship of files and variables used by iPac. Also, since iPac is still extremely "buggy," I would suggest limiting most changes to those you can do in the iPac Admin tool and using Dynix dictionaries. That way you know the bugs you are reporting are being caused by iPac ala epixtech and not by any of your customizations. I would also hope that many of the customizations Hennepin, Tampa Bay, other libraries and we have done will be incorporated as options in the next release of iPac. I would gladly give my modified and commented xsl and xml file to epixtech for their examination. - Charles ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* >>> pfeilmeyer at hclib.org 08/02/02 08:03AM >>> There are three areas of customization we did here at Hennepin: * new dictionaries on Dynix * customization using the iPac Admin tool * customization of the XSL stylesheets As you would expect, the first two were not affected by the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade. The XSL stylesheets, however, was another story. We made extensive modifications to 9 of the *.xsl files, and a few changes to several more (I use a nice text editor called UltraEdit). There is no provision in the upgrade to accommodate these modifications, so we had to look over and re-edit each of the 2.01 XSL stylesheets. For the 2.0 to 2.01 upgrade, this took me between 30 and 40 hours. I anticipate that this will be easier (and take less time) during the next upgrade, as I spend a bunch of time figuring out the best way to do it as well as reworking some of the stuff we had done early on (there was quite a learning curve getting to know the ins and outs of XSLT). Anyway, I hope this helps. There is definitely a down side to extensive customization, but given our patron and staff response to the modifications we made, we still feel that it's worth it. Feel free to contact me for more information, although I have to admit it might take me about 2 or 3 weeks to respond. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Helfrich, Gair [mailto:GHelfrich at acmail.aclink.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:13 AM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? And before I do it, I want the answer to Eileen's question. No kidding! Gair -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! r*************************** http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Fri Aug 2 13:44:29 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:44:29 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD865@xchg.hclib.org> >At Seattle Public Library we have customized the same three >areas Phil has indicated, as well as the CSS files (cascading >style sheets - which I suspect Phil has also customized) Yes, indeed. I forgot about those. Fortunately, our customized CSS files needed no modifications in the upgrade from 2.0 to 2.01. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 2 16:08:36 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 13:08:36 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Modifying iPac Footer Message-ID: I just responded to an individual query regarding removing the epixtech logo from the footer. As I believe that I have seen similar questions on this list server, I thought I would post my answer here as well since some of you might be interested. MODIFYING IPAC FOOTER: The footer text can be changed in the following variables using the iPac Admin Tool: Customize > Interface > Variables > Edit Variables Select the applicable "string" file: (ours was labeled "SPL - String Default") From medlinc at hotmail.com Fri Aug 2 17:09:02 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 21:09:02 +0000 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020802/f4174d05/attachment.html From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Sat Aug 3 11:42:23 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:42:23 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCABF@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Wordpad Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Ledford [mailto:kledford at npls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:06 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are branches. Kyle D. Ledford Assistant System Administrator Newark Public Library System 101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 E-mail: kledford at npls.org Web: http://www.npls.org _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Sat Aug 3 11:46:57 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 10:46:57 -0500 Subject: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAC0@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> I am assuming that when you upgrade you may choose to just upgrade the iPac portion and not the XSL processor. You can then take your time either adding the new elements epixtech has in the new version to your own stylesheets. Or you can re-program all of your changes and use the new stylesheets. Just an idea... I guess i'll find out when the next version comes out. Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us -----Original Message----- From: Eileen Kontrovitz [mailto:eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:21 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Yeah, I'd like to hire the guy/gal at Hennapin! It is awesome. But I wonder what happens to all of that during an upgrade? Eileen ____________________________________________________________________________ __________________ Eileen R. Kontrovitz, M.L.S. Head of Automation Ouachita Parish Public Library eileenk at ouachita.lib.la.us 1800 Stubbs Avenue 318-329-1490 ex. 3004 Monroe, LA 71201 FAX: 318-327-1499 It's a thankless job, but I have a lot of Karma to burn off! ____________________________________________________________________________ ___________________ -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of George Yobst Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:42 PM To: Kyle Ledford Cc: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] iPac Customization _ Who is using what? Hi Kyle, The best site I've seen so far is Hennapin: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/ Major work there!! I think he's got a development and production server setup. Ben @ Tampa Bay has done some good stuff as well! http://ipac.tblc.org/ I use PFEditor (freeware) to edit the style sheets. It works well and you can easily put it in line-number mode too, so when somebody says go to line 761, you don't have to count ;-). We've done some basic changes here, just enough to make it look and act to our liking without putting forward too much effort: http://ipac.lincc.lib.or.us:81/ipac20/ipac.jsp?profile=pub You can browse the all sites from the Q's listing: http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan/ipac/ipaclist.html Good Luck. Hope you have some time on your hands to do this! -George On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Kyle Ledford wrote: * *Anyone who has gone above and beyond on the customization... What are *you using? Some type of editor are you using to modify the templates... *Hard coding? I am considering some customization to change the "in *house" look especially with our pending use of it in house at are *branches. * * *Kyle D. Ledford *Assistant System Administrator *Newark Public Library System *101 West Main Street, Newark, Ohio 43055 *Phone: (740) 349-5586 Fax: (740) 349-5575 *E-mail: kledford at npls.org *Web: http://www.npls.org * * *_______________________________________________ *ipac mailing list *ipac at lists.tblc.org *http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac * --------------------------------------------------------------------------- George Yobst, Library Technology Specialist phone: 503.723.4890 Library Information Network of Clackamas County fax: 503.794.8238 16239 SE McLoughlin Blvd, Suite 208 web: http://www.lincc.lib.or.us Oak Grove, OR 97267-4654 email: george at lincc.lib.or.us "...it is impossible for anyone to begin to learn what he thinks he already knows." - Epictetus _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From rhelwig at flls.org Mon Aug 5 09:36:56 2002 From: rhelwig at flls.org (Rex R. Helwig) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:36:56 -0400 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <008701c23c85$3d054e30$5f046fcf@cns01> In the "toolbar2.xsl" the following line may have something to do with that. You may want to try commenting it out. Rex -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Colleen Medling Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:09 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to zap the word English off the toolbar? I did comment out the lines Ben at TBLC suggested but iPAC just keeps on putting that blasted word on the end. I know that its supposed to be fixed in 2.02... but it would be nice to have a cleaner toolbar. Thanks Colleen Medling Senior Librarian Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System _____ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020805/a08f3764/attachment.html From CarlinD at apsu.edu Mon Aug 5 16:35:33 2002 From: CarlinD at apsu.edu (Carlin, Don) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:35:33 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Changing the color of the blue bar in ipac201 my list? Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738D0@exchange.apsu.edu> Is it possible to change the color of the blue bar in my list? Don't know where to make this change in the ipac admin tool. tia, Don Carlin Austin Peay State University Clarksville, TN 37044 pho 931/221-7384 fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020805/722617c8/attachment.html From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Mon Aug 5 20:37:29 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:37:29 +1200 Subject: [ipac] iPac as In-house Access Message-ID: > 1) Have you had problems with customer's not logging out when > they place hold or check their "My Account" information? Ohhhh yes! We have labels on each monitor reminding patrons to "sign out" of their account > 2) Can you change the default time when a session times out and the screen resets itself? Settings - libraries - library info - (connection info) - seconds until timeout > 3) How are you locking down the computers to just the catalog and the links that are listed on an approved links list? Public web browser in kiosk mode, with Fortres. We allow Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the close programs box so staff can shut down PWB. When we had PWB's close window box showing, patrons kept closing the browser at the end of their session - one lovely patron would come along, see the desktop, & rather than clicking on the icon (clearly labelled "library catalogue") would assume the computer was "broken" and then press the power button! We use a proxy server filter to restrict site access - PWB's onlyaccess file caused problems with iPac's HTML help files. we have about 150 bib records with URL's in the 856(?) tag - most of these are government sites which we do allow access to. --- Stuart Hubbard Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ From gremmelsg at wartburg.edu Tue Aug 6 12:53:17 2002 From: gremmelsg at wartburg.edu (Jill Gremmels) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:53:17 -0500 Subject: [ipac] dates Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020806115110.0181f0e0@spock.wartburg.edu> Dates in our iPac 2.01 are currently displaying in YYYY/MM/DD order. I can see examples in the documentation of dates in MM/DD/YYYY order, so it must be possible to change the format, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how. Can anyone help? Thank you so much! Jill Jill Gremmels gremmelsg at wartburg.edu College Librarian phone: (319) 352-8462 Wartburg College fax: (319) 352-8312 100 Wartburg Blvd. Waverly, IA 50677 From sebrowsk at rhpl.org Tue Aug 6 12:59:15 2002 From: sebrowsk at rhpl.org (Ben Sebrowski) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:59:15 -0400 Subject: [ipac] dates In-Reply-To: <517FE5625DBBD011BDC700805F49639D463CA6@RHPLNET> Message-ID: <517FE5625DBBD011BDC700805F49639D43AE7D@RHPLNET> Jill, It's a string variable. Go into Interface under Customize. Then choose the string variable file you have assigned to your profile. Do a search for Date Format. To edit, change the value to mm/dd/yyyy. Ben Sebrowski Computer Systems Specialist Rochester Hills Public Library 500 Olde Towne Road Rochester, Michigan 48307-2043 Ph.: 248/650-7123 Fax: 248/650-7121 -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Jill Gremmels Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:54 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] dates Dates in our iPac 2.01 are currently displaying in YYYY/MM/DD order. I can see examples in the documentation of dates in MM/DD/YYYY order, so it must be possible to change the format, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how. Can anyone help? Thank you so much! Jill Jill Gremmels gremmelsg at wartburg.edu College Librarian phone: (319) 352-8462 Wartburg College fax: (319) 352-8312 100 Wartburg Blvd. Waverly, IA 50677 _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From medlinc at hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 16:48:31 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:48:31 +0000 Subject: [ipac] Thanks.... Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020806/ccfc58ea/attachment.html From bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 6 21:28:52 2002 From: bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Jackson, Bryan) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:28:52 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Fun with ODBC Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579ADCAC4@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Getting frustrated with the iPac admin interface I decided to investigate direct access to the admin database file. It is a database served by Borland's Interbase(installed when you install ipac). So far I have noted that the version iPac installs has no license data/ so I can not set the interbase server up properly. I downloaded a trial version of Interbase and copied the iPac database over to my own PC. I created a ODBC database connection and loaded up MS Access. After that I now have very easy access to the iPac admin database. This should make the process of copying indexes and settings for each of our branch libraries quite fast(copy and past, yea!) Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Thu Aug 8 15:44:02 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:44:02 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Fun with ODBC Message-ID: Bryan, Actually, I think you'll find that it isn't that easy. There are many related tables in the InterBase admin database with keys for resource, source, group codes, UID codes, etc. that all have to relate correctly to each other for each agency you set up. However, we were able to use the interactive SQL capabilities in the InterBase console software to "streamline" some of the processes - notably to change the descriptions for the indexes after they were imported. We also used SQL queries to automatically fix issues of some index information not fully importing - which occurred mostly with some of our bridge indexes for formats (like our Audiobooks indexes). That way we didn't have to re-import each bridge index to get it working (a slow process which we couldn't do anyway after 15-20 agencies were created in iPac). One problem with creating more iPac agency profiles is that as more are created, the response time for many processes in the SA tool slows down considerably, and as mentioned above, the import index utility (NOT the one that is part of the import library wizard) stops working completely (a bug which epixtech is aware of). The InterBase console allowed us to tweak and fix issues that either could not be done in the SA tool, or took a long time to do. It still took from 45 - 60 minutes to created each library. BTW, the ODBC driver that we downloaded was only a trial version that timed out after a week or so unless you purchase it. There was no indication of this timeout when we installed it. Did you find a free one that does not time out? -- Charles ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* >>> bryanj at siouxland.lib.sd.us 08/06/02 06:28PM >>> Getting frustrated with the iPac admin interface I decided to investigate direct access to the admin database file. It is a database served by Borland's Interbase(installed when you install ipac). So far I have noted that the version iPac installs has no license data/ so I can not set the interbase server up properly. I downloaded a trial version of Interbase and copied the iPac database over to my own PC. I created a ODBC database connection and loaded up MS Access. After that I now have very easy access to the iPac admin database. This should make the process of copying indexes and settings for each of our branch libraries quite fast(copy and past, yea!) Bryan Jackson Siouxland Libraries _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From CarlinD at apsu.edu Thu Aug 8 17:21:44 2002 From: CarlinD at apsu.edu (Carlin, Don) Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 16:21:44 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201 Message-ID: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738EB@exchange.apsu.edu> On our ipac, titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201. The only thing that appears is the check out date in the "Out" and the due date in the "Due Date" columns on the Items Out page (My Account > Checked Out. Can anyone tell me how to make titles in My Account > Checked Out tab display? I thought it could be fixed in customize>searching>displays. But itemouts is not listed there and the only place it's referenced in the admin guide is page B6 of the Appendix and listed as itemsout XSL template. tia, Don Carlin Austin Peay State University Clarksville, TN 37044 pho 931/221-7384 fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020808/a59e2e50/attachment.html From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Mon Aug 12 09:02:30 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 08:02:30 -0500 Subject: [ipac] FW: Icons for media format (again) Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD887@xchg.hclib.org> Hi all, I just finished reworking a Dynix BIB I-descriptor that figures out which format icon should be displayed on the summary screen in our iPac: http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm (remote user) http://www.hclib.org/catalog/index.cfm?profile=sd (internal user) It's (mostly) based on the MARC leader and fixed field codes, so if you can count on your cataloging to have the right codes in the right places, it might be something you'd be interested in. I'll try to chop it up and explain some of what it's doing. Feel free to contact me if you want to really dig into it and/or you want to see the XSLT that utilizes it. The output of the I-descriptor is the text string "format_icon!" and then one of the following image file names: OO.gif On order - our order records would otherwise all be "Books" QM.gif "Question Mark" - blank gif LP.gif Large Print MF.gif Microform (currently a blank gif) BR.gif Braille (currently a blank gif) ER.gif Electronic Resource BK.gif Book NP.gif Newspaper (currently a blank gif) MA.gif Magazine (currently a blank gif) VHS.gif Video tape DVD.gif DVD AC.gif Audio cassette (non-music) CD.gif Compact Disc (non-music) ACM.gif Audio cassette (music) CDM.gif Compact Disc (musc) Sample output: >LIST BIB L-IPAC.FORMAT2 BIB....... Format icon info.............. 777107 format_icon!BK.gif 777109 format_icon!BK.gif 777110 format_icon!QM.gif 777111 format_icon!BK.gif 307113 format_icon!VHS.gif 307115 format_icon!BK.gif 307116 format_icon!BK.gif 777128 format_icon!AC.gif 777132 format_icon!BK.gif 777138 format_icon!VHS.gif 307133 format_icon!CDM.gif 777139 format_icon!CD.gif 307135 format_icon!ACM.gif Enter DICT NAME : L-IPAC.FORMAT2 1 FIELD NAME 1/ Format icon info 2 FORMAT 30L 3 CONVERSION 1/ 4 FIELD EXPRESSION SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS( TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);S UBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1);"format_i con!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES ,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BA RCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SV M)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "B K.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (I F @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD. gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = " s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "A CM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif" )) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) 5 SINGLE/MULTI S ### END OF RECORD ### Here's the FIELD EXPRESSION again on a single line: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1);SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1, "X"),8,1);SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1);SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1) ;"format_icon!":IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "" THEN "QM.gif" ELSE (IF @1 = "a" THEN (IF @4 = "d" THEN "LP.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "a" "b" "c" THEN "MF.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "f" THEN "BR.gif" ELSE (IF @4 = "s" THEN "ER.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "m" THEN "BK.gif" ELSE (IF @2 = "s" THEN (IF @5 = "n" THEN "NP.gif" ELSE (IF @5 = "p" THEN "MA.gif" ELSE "BK.gif")) ELSE "BK.gif")))))) ELSE (IF @1 = "g" THEN (IF @3 = "f" THEN "VHS.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "DVD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "i" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "AC.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CD.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE (IF @1 = "j" THEN (IF @3 = "s" THEN "ACM.gif" ELSE (IF @3 = "d" THEN "CDM.gif" ELSE "QM.gif")) ELSE "QM.gif"))))) The first several sections establish some variables: SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),7,1); This looks into the MARC.BIB file and grabs the 7th character of the Leader (the Type of Record code) and saves it as @1. SUBSTRINGS(TRANS(MARC.BIB, at ID,F1,"X"),8,1); Same thing for the 8th character of the Leader (the Bibliographic level code), saving it as @2. SUBSTRINGS(DESC,2,1); Saves the 2nd character of the 007 as @3. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,24,1); Saves the 24th character of the 008 as @4. SUBSTRINGS(FIXED,22,1); Saves the 22nd character of the 008 as @5. "format_icon!": This sticks the text string "format_icon!" at the beginning of the output. It's the hook that the XSLT uses to identify the right data. Then comes a whole host of nested IF THEN ELSE statements that decide which icon should be used for the title. The first test is to see if the item is on order (order records would otherwise all be considered Books): IF BARCODES AND (SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AO"))) + SUM(EQS(TRANS(HOLDINGS,BARCODES,STATUS,"X"),REUSE("AR"))) = DCOUNT(BARCODES, at SVM)) THEN "OO.gif" In English, this says: "If there are items attached AND all of the items have a status of either AO or AR, then it's on order." The rest of the IF THEN ELSE mess is looking at the various aspects of the Leader, 007, and 008 to determine the format of the title. Again, if you're interested I can give you more information about how I laid this out. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020812/bfbdd8b4/attachment.html From f-mcnamara at uchicago.edu Tue Aug 13 09:34:20 2002 From: f-mcnamara at uchicago.edu (Frances McNamara) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:34:20 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201 In-Reply-To: <8C1D549B4324D51181010090277A49DE1738EB@exchange.apsu.edu> Message-ID: <4.3.1.2.20020813083227.00ddf6a0@nsit-popmail.uchicago.edu> We had that problem and they gave us a fix. Our Log number is 1309708. I think you should call support and ask them to take a look at that log to see if what they did for us will help you. I think there is some strange esoteric relationship between how you set up the My List and items out and something else. Good luck. Frances McNamara University of Chicago At 04:21 PM 8/8/02 -0500, you wrote: >On our ipac, titles are not displaying on itemsout xsl template in ipac201. The only thing that appears is the check out date in the "Out" and the due date in the "Due Date" columns on the Items Out page (My Account > Checked Out. > >Can anyone tell me how to make titles in My Account > Checked Out tab display? I thought it could be fixed in customize>searching>displays. But itemouts is not listed there and the only place it's referenced in the admin guide is page B6 of the Appendix and listed as itemsout XSL template. > >tia, > >Don Carlin >Austin Peay State University >Clarksville, TN 37044 > >pho 931/221-7384 >fax 931/221-7296 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020813/aaedc5cb/attachment.html From donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us Tue Aug 13 16:53:40 2002 From: donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Cranmer, Donna) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:53:40 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Siouxland Libraries visible Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579017A9D4D@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Hi everyone, For several months, our city IT infrastructure has been undergoing changes, and iPac visibility has been a casualty. However, Jodi Fick and Bryan Jackson (one of our IT staff) have been hard at work on it, even when it was visible only within the network. I've stayed out of this project (they're the creative ones) except a bit on the Dynix side. We feel a bit guilty that we added our site to Susan's list, and practically immediately went invisible. However, as of late last week, it was the final piece in our section of the network that was fixed, so take a look at http://catalog.siouxland.lib.sd.us We expect to go live in September. Staff want training first, so that's the final step here before plugging it in completely. Donna Donna Cranmer Head of Technical Services Siouxland Libraries 201 N. Main Ave. Sioux Falls, SD 57104-6002 605-367-8712 donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us From oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca Tue Aug 13 16:45:53 2002 From: oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca (Leah Oliver) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:45:53 -0700 Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In-Reply-To: <008701c23c85$3d054e30$5f046fcf@cns01> Message-ID: <02Aug13.153100pdt.115202@firewall.nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca> I tried commenting these lines out, however, the English label still appears on the main pages. Are there any other ways to remove this label? or are there other lines that need to be commented out in the toolbar2.xsl file? Thank you Leah Oliver -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Rex R. Helwig Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 8:37 AM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] It just won't go away.... In the "toolbar2.xsl" the following line may have something to do with that. You may want to try commenting it out. Rex -----Original Message----- From: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org [mailto:ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org] On Behalf Of Colleen Medling Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:09 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: [ipac] It just won't go away.... Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to zap the word English off the toolbar? I did comment out the lines Ben at TBLC suggested but iPAC just keeps on putting that blasted word on the end. I know that its supposed to be fixed in 2.02... but it would be nice to have a cleaner toolbar. Thanks Colleen Medling Senior Librarian Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System _____ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020813/7815975b/attachment.html From stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz Wed Aug 14 01:19:29 2002 From: stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz (Hubbard, Stuart) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:19:29 +1200 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Wed Aug 14 01:57:37 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:57:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: This is most likely a memory allocation issue. Default allocation for JBoss is 128MB, which is probably not enough for 50 simultaneous users. Epixtech may offer to "tune" your server. If so, take 'em up on it. Here are some suggestions anyway: 1. 1GB RAM: 512MB for JBoss, 2 XSL processors @ 128MB ea. 2. 768MB RAM: 384MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB (or 2 XSL processors @ 96MB) 3. 512MB RAM: 256MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB You can also fiddle with the Jetty thread configuration. The file to do this is located at "c:\epixtech\ipac\JBoss\jboss\conf\jetty\jetty.xml" by default on Windows installations. With 1GB RAM, you should be able to set MaxThreads to 1024 rather than the default of 255. Hope this helps! Best, Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz 08/13/02 22:19 PM >>> We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Wed Aug 14 01:57:37 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:57:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Out of threads error - will a second XSL processor help? Message-ID: This is most likely a memory allocation issue. Default allocation for JBoss is 128MB, which is probably not enough for 50 simultaneous users. Epixtech may offer to "tune" your server. If so, take 'em up on it. Here are some suggestions anyway: 1. 1GB RAM: 512MB for JBoss, 2 XSL processors @ 128MB ea. 2. 768MB RAM: 384MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB (or 2 XSL processors @ 96MB) 3. 512MB RAM: 256MB for JBoss, 1 XSL processor @ 128MB You can also fiddle with the Jetty thread configuration. The file to do this is located at "c:\epixtech\ipac\JBoss\jboss\conf\jetty\jetty.xml" by default on Windows installations. With 1GB RAM, you should be able to set MaxThreads to 1024 rather than the default of 255. Hope this helps! Best, Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> stuart.hubbard at pncc.govt.nz 08/13/02 22:19 PM >>> We're having problems with losing our iPac sessions everyday around mid-afternoon, presumably when the dial-in users join the 25-odd internal users. I don't have access to the console (yet) but I've seen a screen-dump which says: Low on threads followed by [Jetty] WARNING: Out of threads - at this point we restart JBOSS. Minimum users is set to 5 (which should give enough UV licenses for 50 users, before iPac grabs more as needed) Increment is 1 We only run one XSL processor. Will a second one on the same server help, with only 40 - odd users? Thanks - Stuart --- Stuart Hubbard - Systems Librarian Palmerston North City Library (64 6) 351 4100 4 the Square, Palmerston North (NZ) __________________________________________________________________________________________ Caution: The content of this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. If it is not intended for you, please email the sender immediately and destroy the original message. You may not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Thank You. __________________________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us Tue Aug 13 18:12:20 2002 From: fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us (Blair, Frank) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 18:12:20 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Message-ID: Has anyone figured out how to get item barcodes to display on patron records in iPAC? Our paperback readers are chewing us up because they can't renew their uncatalogued items with any certainty as to which item is which. Text-based Dynix handled this by displaying item barcodes. Any ideas or work arounds? Frank Blair Information Systems Specialist Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us From medlinc at hotmail.com Wed Aug 14 13:16:04 2002 From: medlinc at hotmail.com (Colleen Medling) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:16:04 +0000 Subject: [ipac] RE: It just won't go away Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020814/524ae3bb/attachment.html From pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Thu Aug 15 11:46:47 2002 From: pfeilmeyer at hclib.org (feilmeyer, phil) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:46:47 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Message-ID: <400D45856BCBD21181C60008C733F595040FD899@xchg.hclib.org> Hi Frank, Yes, this is possible. I was able to edit the file patronpersonaloptions.xsl so that an additional column containing the barcode number is included in the table of items out. Let me know if you're interested in more information. This fix requires you to make "unsupported" changes to the XSL stylesheets which will be overwritten with each upgrade. Phil +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Phil Feilmeyer pfeilmeyer at hclib.org Integrated Library System Manager (952) 847-8768 Hennepin County Library (952) 847-8600 (fax) 12601 Ridgedale Drive Minnetonka, MN 55305-1909 http://www.hclib.org -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- -----Original Message----- From: Blair, Frank [mailto:fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 5:12 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: [ipac] Item barcodes on patron records in iPAC Has anyone figured out how to get item barcodes to display on patron records in iPAC? Our paperback readers are chewing us up because they can't renew their uncatalogued items with any certainty as to which item is which. Text-based Dynix handled this by displaying item barcodes. Any ideas or work arounds? Frank Blair Information Systems Specialist Public Library of Charlotte & Mecklenburg County fdb at plcmc.lib.nc.us _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca Thu Aug 15 10:10:31 2002 From: oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca (Leah Oliver) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:10:31 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Clearing My List (Booklist) - iPac 2.0 Message-ID: <02Aug15.085526pdt.115202@firewall.nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca> How does My List (booklist), get cleared when a user logs out or exits the webpage? Is there a setting to have it automatically empty, or is the user required to clear their list themselves? Thanks, Leah Oliver Systems Technician North Vancouver District Public Library 604-990-5814 oliverl at nvdpl.north-van.bc.ca From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 13:40:23 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:40:23 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From jfuss at mail.wrl.org Thu Aug 15 13:59:37 2002 From: jfuss at mail.wrl.org (Judy Fuss) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug In-Reply-To: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> Message-ID: Jerry - I have already tried this "fix" with Casey Durfee. Using this entry protocol allows the predefined limits to import inot iPac. However, once there they still do not work due to limitations of iPac to use these limitors in this way. If this works for you please let me know the details. -Judy Fuss On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Jerry Kuntz wrote: > Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. > On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: > READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J > ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: > READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J > > To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > _____________________________________________________________________________ Judy Fuss, Systems Administrator jfuss at mail.wrl.org Williamsburg Regional Library 757-259-7727 7770 Croaker Road FAX 757-259-7798 Williamsburg, VA 23188 From suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu Thu Aug 15 15:21:06 2002 From: suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu (Susan M. Johns) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug In-Reply-To: <200208151340.AA208601344@ansernet.rcls.org> from "Jerry Kuntz" at Aug 15, 2002 01:40:23 PM Message-ID: <200208151921.OAA39020@mail.pittstate.edu> Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of us. Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. You're not alone. q > Susan Johns Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 Pittsburg KS 66762 suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. > On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: > READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J > ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: > READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C > READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J > > To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. > > -- > Jerry Kuntz > Electronic Resources Consultant > Ramapo Catskill Library System > jkuntz at rcls.org > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > ipac mailing list > ipac at lists.tblc.org > http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 15:45:15 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:45:15 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151545.AA453050692@ansernet.rcls.org> I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way into >ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to bring them >over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring over. Since >text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek >rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in admin tool. >Hand clearing them out is really not an option for the SA; maybe for >development, but must be a trick for the rest of us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu >http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org Thu Aug 15 16:23:37 2002 From: Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org (Tyckoson, Mary Ellen) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:23:37 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Kevin.Stevens at spl.org Thu Aug 15 17:32:44 2002 From: Kevin.Stevens at spl.org (Kevin Stevens) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:32:44 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: My understanding is that the Windows admin tool is being developed for v2.1. Anyone care to start an office pool to predict its release date? Let's also hope that, in addition to a better and faster admin interface, v2.1 also includes facilities to copy more information from profile to profile. Setting up 95 branches with the current admin tool will drive you to drink, guaranteed! Kevin Stevens Systems Analyst Seattle Public Library (206) 615-1320 >>> Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org 08/15/02 01:23PM >>> Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Thu Aug 15 17:40:53 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:40:53 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <200208151740.AA729350402@ansernet.rcls.org> Judy, et al. You're right. These limits with the AND and OR now imported to iPac, but still don't work in searches. Sigh. I just wasted a day correcting them in 50 Dynix accounts. Aren't Casey and Dave looking at the same knowledge base? Is there a knowledge base? ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Judy Fuss Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 13:59:37 -0400 (EDT) > >Jerry - > >I have already tried this "fix" with Casey Durfee. Using this entry >protocol allows the predefined limits to import inot iPac. However, once >there they still do not work due to limitations of iPac to use these >limitors in this way. If this works for you please let me know the >details. > >-Judy Fuss > > >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Jerry Kuntz wrote: > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > >_____________________________________________________________________________ >Judy Fuss, Systems Administrator jfuss at mail.wrl.org >Williamsburg Regional Library 757-259-7727 >7770 Croaker Road FAX 757-259-7798 >Williamsburg, VA 23188 > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- From a.scott at libr.canterbury.ac.nz Thu Aug 15 17:57:46 2002 From: a.scott at libr.canterbury.ac.nz (Anne Scott (Library)) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 09:57:46 +1200 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <788519101FDD2942A54E29DD18B83E04017D13A9@cantwe.canterbury.ac.nz> Hi > Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found > their way into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating > each time I tried to bring them over, some of the more unique > ones which it will *not* bring over. Since text-based has > about 30 and these on ipac seem to be multiplying liek > rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit screens in > admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option > for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for > the rest of us. There are bugs with Horizon as well, it is very difficult to get new ones across. The best advice to to take the time to set these up in Horizon after upgrading to 7.03 but before installing iPac. Although I have never seen them multiplying. Regards Anne From donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us Thu Aug 15 18:24:54 2002 From: donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us (Cranmer, Donna) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:24:54 -0500 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: <9CE683F2D2BAA04B9C626E9179CC0579017A9D56@ci-ex01.city.siouxfallssd.org> Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org >> http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org >http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org Thu Aug 15 18:52:52 2002 From: Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org (Tyckoson, Mary Ellen) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:52:52 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Donna, thanks for the update. Guess that means I should stockup on gin and tonic and get started on the branches, since they'll never let me wait until November(December....) for internal iPAC use. Heavy sigh. And, of course, I also just realized that my predefined limit of AGENCIES="COAL" OR AGENCIES="HRN" which appeared to be working was actually doing AND, not OR. Luckily, I hadn't responded to the customer satisfaction survey on my predefined limit problems yet.:) Mary Ellen Tyckoson -----Original Message----- From: Cranmer, Donna [mailto:donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:25 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND >> and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND >> READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING >> LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts >> on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -- _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac From Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov Fri Aug 16 09:51:10 2002 From: Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov (Bursik, Carol J) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 9:51:10 -0400 Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Message-ID: <"JMD0001-020816135110Z-77758*/PRMD=USDOJ-JCON/ADMD= /C=US/"@MHS> Is it possible to move from iPAC 1.02 to 2.02 or do you have to load 2.01 first? We're trying to plan a project schedule for this fall and just need to know what steps are involved. We realize that nothing from 1.02 will carry over to 2.0. Thanks in advance. Carol Carol J. Bursik Assistant Director for Access and Organization U.S. Department of Justice Libraries Voice: 202.514.5102 FAX: 202.514.2785 Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov From A.Felt at epixtech.com Fri Aug 16 13:33:16 2002 From: A.Felt at epixtech.com (A.Felt at epixtech.com) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:33:16 -0600 Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Message-ID: iPac 2.0x, even though it is called an upgrade to 1.02, is a separate installation. Both iPac 1 and iPac 2 can run simultaneously on Horizon 7.03. As far as I understand it now (nothing's certain until it is released), iPac 2.02 will be both an installation and upgrade. If you are not on iPac 2.01 then you can install 2.02 without installing 2.01. Sincerely, Alison Felt epixtech, inc. Dynix: 1-800-284-3969 ext. 5201 Horizon: 1-800-683-9649 ext. 5201 Fax: 801-223-5202 a.felt at epixtech.com "Bursik, Carol J" Sent by: ipac-admin at lists.tblc.org 08/16/2002 07:51 AM Please respond to ipac To: "'ipac at lists.tblc.org'" cc: Subject: [ipac] Migration Question Is it possible to move from iPAC 1.02 to 2.02 or do you have to load 2.01 first? We're trying to plan a project schedule for this fall and just need to know what steps are involved. We realize that nothing from 1.02 will carry over to 2.0. Thanks in advance. Carol Carol J. Bursik Assistant Director for Access and Organization U.S. Department of Justice Libraries Voice: 202.514.5102 FAX: 202.514.2785 Carol.J.Bursik at usdoj.gov _______________________________________________ ipac mailing list ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.tblc.org/pipermail/ipac/attachments/20020816/6e2e3039/attachment.html From Charles.Coldwell at spl.org Fri Aug 16 17:57:22 2002 From: Charles.Coldwell at spl.org (Charles Coldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:57:22 -0700 Subject: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Message-ID: Importing and running predefined limits with ORs and ANDs has been a problem since ver. 2.00. We discovered that the predefined limits would at least import if you included the attribute name for each AND or OR, but that the search still would not work. Epixtech claimed they fixed the problem with rel. 2.01 (though you still have to edit the query to repeat the attribute name for it to import!), and we discovered and reported to epixtech last week that the OR searches were ANDing instead of ORing (a similar problem that occurred with the boolean OR searches from the Power search menu). The defect number is #4369, so you can check if it has been fixed when epixtech releases the Delta Document for that release. And, Mary, I would suggest that you don't even consider bringing up your 95 branches on iPac until you see what fixes are provided with rel. 2.02. Besides the fact that the web-based iPac admin tool becomes too slow and even dysfunctional for some of the setup functions somewhere between 15 and 20 libraries, there is also the major issue of the iPac service crashing several times during the day when it gets loaded with a large number of connections. I know of three large library systems with 20 or more branches that have this problem after they brought iPac up in-house. - Charles >>> Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org 08/15/02 03:52PM >>> Donna, thanks for the update. Guess that means I should stockup on gin and tonic and get started on the branches, since they'll never let me wait until November(December....) for internal iPAC use. Heavy sigh. And, of course, I also just realized that my predefined limit of AGENCIES="COAL" OR AGENCIES="HRN" which appeared to be working was actually doing AND, not OR. Luckily, I hadn't responded to the customer satisfaction survey on my predefined limit problems yet.:) Mary Ellen Tyckoson -----Original Message----- From: Cranmer, Donna [mailto:donnac at siouxland.lib.sd.us] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:25 PM To: 'ipac at lists.tblc.org' Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Mary Ellen, Dynix senior just restated November earlier today. Take that with whatever grain of salt you prefer. Donna -----Original Message----- From: Tyckoson, Mary Ellen [mailto:Mary.Tyckoson at sjvls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: RE: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug Anyone know how soon epixtech is predicting the release of the Windows client admin tool? We've release iPAC for our external users, and now the pressure is on for internal use - but with 95 branches I'm not thrilled at tackling the task with the current admin tool. BTW - I thought maybe the predefined limit problems were just mine. I think that I've got most of ours solved with the help of epixtech, but also decided that the key to success is to have everything EXACTLY right, EXACTLY the way you want it to appear in iPAC before you import anything. And of course, the trick is knowing that you have it exactly right. I ended up deleting a library and starting over after my existing predefined limits, whose names I had changed after importing, were duplicating each time I tried to import newly created limits because the name was different in text Dynix even though the limit was the same as the one already in iPAC - and I couldn't just check one and leave the other blank, because if I checked one they would both show up, and then the labels started getting out of kilter with the actual limits, and so on, and so on.... Mary Ellen Tyckoson San Joaquin Valley Library System -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Kuntz [mailto:jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 12:45 PM To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Subject: Re: [ipac] Predefined limits import bug I've been unsure about logging the many glitches in the Admin tool, knowing that the web-based admin will soon be replaced by a Windows client. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Susan M. Johns" Reply-To: ipac at lists.tblc.org Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:21:06 -0500 (CDT) >Jerry, similarly, we have over 300 limits which have found their way >into ipac admin screens, apparently replicating each time I tried to >bring them over, some of the more unique ones which it will *not* bring >over. Since text-based has about 30 and these on ipac seem to be >multiplying liek rabbits, clearly something is wrong with the limit >screens in admin tool. Hand clearing them out is really not an option >for the SA; maybe for development, but must be a trick for the rest of >us. > >Am glad to hear you have some that have refused to come over as well. >You're not alone. > >q > >> > >Susan Johns >Systems/Circulation Librarian Voice: (620) 235-4115 >Axe Library, Pittsburg State University Fax: (620) 235-4090 >Pittsburg KS 66762 >suzyq at mail.pittstate.edu http://library.pittstate.edu/staff/susan > > >> Dave Johnson helped track down the source of a problem we were having with Predefined Limits. One of our limits called "Child Reading Level" would not import at all, and another "Adult reading Level" imported, but would not work in iPac. >> On the Dynix PAC account side, those limits had been set using AND >> and OR statements: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND <>A AND <>B AND <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR =B OR =C OR =J >> ...which work fine in Dynix, but Ipac needs the field names repeated: >> READING LEVEL <>J AND READING LEVEL <>A AND READING LEVEL <>B AND >> READING LEVEL <>C >> READING LEVEL =A OR READING LEVEL =B OR READING LEVEL =C OR READING >> LEVEL =J >> >> To fix this, I need to adjust the limits in all effected PAC accounts >> on the Dynix side and then reimport to iPac. However, I also needed Dave's help there, since my attempts to reimport limits when iPac already has a list results in duplicate, missing, and mismatched limits. Dave has to clear out the old limits stored in iPac before I can import. >> >> -- >> Jerry Kuntz >> Electronic Resources Consultant >> Ramapo Catskill Library System >> jkuntz at rcls.org >> >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ipac mailing list >> ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ipac mailing list >ipac at lists.tblc.org http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac > -- Jerry Kuntz Electronic Resources Consultant Ramapo Catskill Library System jkuntz at rcls.org -http://lists.tblc.org/mailman/listinfo/ipac ****************************** Charles P. Coldwell Library Applications Manager Seattle Public Library 800 Pike Street Seattle, WA 98101 PHONE: (206) 386-4171 FAX: (206) 386-4165 ******************************* From jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org Tue Aug 20 08:33:31 2002 From: jkuntz at ansernet.rcls.org (Jerry Kuntz) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 08:33:31 -0400 Subject: [ipac] iPac user survey Message-ID: <200208200833.AA3903062290@ansernet.rcls.org> Excuse the lengthy post, but I thought people might find this interesting. We attached a link to the footer of our iPac pages to a user survey. Part of that survey included a free-text field for comments. Here are the comments we have received so far: I could not place any books on hold because I could not get any information fro