[ipac] Unacceptable HIP behavior

[Steven Bowers]

And did SD say how you would do a limit of a Location + Biography?  I would
love to do a Location + Language but I thought in group_limit and word_index
filters you can only combine like data, i.e. a group limit can be a combo of
say 1+ itypes or 1+ locations, etc., but a group limit can't combine an
itype and a location, etc.  Am I wrong?

-Steve

Steven K. Bowers 
Director 
sbowers at wayne.edu 

DALNET - the Detroit Area Library Network 
http://www.dalnet.lib.mi.us

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Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:38 PM
To: ipac at lists.tblc.org
Subject: Re: [ipac] Unacceptable HIP behavior

The response from SD was that HIP cannot "nest" limits (i.e. apply one
and then another and keep both). Support indicated that my options are
to create more combined limits, like "Key West Biographies", or only use
Power Search to combine limits. (Fine for me, but how do I explain the
latter to users?)

Ultimately, I'm trying to set up "Quick Searches" to produce alpha lists
of items by format, like DVD or audiobook on CD. (Exasperated user: "I
just want to see a list of your DVDs! Why is that so HARD?") For now,
staff knows to instruct users to place an asterisk in General KW and
apply format and location limits from PowerSearch page. Apparently, our
limits are about to grow more sophisticated!


Anne

Anne Layton Rice
Library Administrator
Monroe County Public Library
Key West, Florida
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 6:36:15 -0700
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Yep, if it isn't part of the initial search it drops the school/location
limit and searches with new limits on the whole catalog.

I was looking forward to Horizon 8.x which it was fixed...
--
David Schuster
Library Technology Coordinator
Plano ISD

---- Jeni Friedland <melicenter at mac.com> wrote: 

=============
Great question.  Our HIP is set to search just our elementary  
collection - but when we limit it, it searches the entire district  
collection.  Please post this answer!  (for an answer, our users are  
used to hearing the explanation  "We have no clue")

On Mar 29, 2007, at 1:12 PM, Rice-Anne wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> I just submitted a problem via Log Express:
>
>
>
> ?When a Power Search is executed with a limit, then the user tries  
> to apply another limit from the Search Results page, the original  
> limit is dropped.
> Example, search for "Einstein" in general keyword and select  
> "Biographies" limit=11 results. Then select Limit By to "Key West  
> Library"=40 titles. A Power Search combining general keyword  
> "Einstein" +Limits "Biographies" + Location "Key West"=3 titles. ?
>
> But now I?ve checked a few other libraries? HIPs and find the same  
> problem, so it appears to be a universal HIP behavior: The original  
> limit applied from the Power Search page is dropped when ?Limit  
> By:? is selected from the Search Results page.
>
>
>
> Has anyone found a workaround for this? Or a way to explain to  
> users why ?Limit by:? will INCREASE their Power Search results,  
> rather than refine.
>
>
>
> Optional rant: These kinds of glitches drive me batty! It seems our  
> users need a full-day workshop to figure out our catalog. No wonder  
> they?d rather buy it from Amazon?
>
> Anne



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